Progressions: A Unification!

Algebra Level 5

It is given that there exists a set of real numbers Ξ \Xi , such that its elements taken in some order form a non-constant arithmetic progression and its elements taken in some other order form a non-constant geometric progression .

What is the maximum possible cardinality of this set Ξ \Xi ?

If you think that there is no upper bound for its cardinality, input -1 as your answer.


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The answer is 3.

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1 solution

Any 2 numbers are always in AP or GP.

If Ξ \Xi only contains positive numbers then the maximum numbers which can satisfy is 2 (can be proved using AM GM and then using the fact that it is a nonconstant progression)

So , If Ξ \Xi contains both positive and negative numbers, arranging them in ascending order will give me the AP. Also changing all the signs will create a new set which will satisfy both conditions.

Let 1st term of GP be a a and its ratio be r , r > 1 -r ,r>1

We have the terms as a , a r , a r 2 . . . a,-ar,ar^2...

Case 1: 3 terms

AP will be a r , a , a r 2 -ar,a,ar^2 So 2 a = a r 2 a r 2a=ar^2-ar

Thus r 2 r 2 = 0 r^2-r-2=0

And ( r 2 ) ( r + 1 ) = 0 (r-2)(r+1)=0

We can see that r = 1 r=-1 gives constant progression (and r > 1 r>1 ) So only solution is r = 2. r=2.

Case 2: more than 3 terms.

If we have more than 3 terms then you can see that if we arrange the terms again in the order for AP, We get that Again the 1st 3 terms of GP must be an AP. So the common ratio must be 2. But for r = 2 r=2 the 4th term does not correspond to forming an AP (4th term is a r 3 = 8 a -ar^3=-8a )(-8a,-2a,a,4a do not form an AP) If 4th term does not form the AP then for no n > 3 n>3 will it form an AP.

Thanks for the well phrased solution!! :)

Rohith M.Athreya - 4 years, 3 months ago

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