Ptolemy's Riddle IV

Geometry Level 5

Once upon a time, Ptolemy drew a cyclic quadrilateral A B C D ABCD along with its diagonals inscribed in a circle as shown above.

Ptolemy : Thou shall see that the diagonal A C = 125 AC = 125 is indeed the diameter of the circle. It intersects another diagonal B D = 117 BD = 117 at point E E . Now speak to me. How magic is this point E E ?

Pupil : All the segments originating from this point E E to the 4 4 vertices have the lengths in distinct integers, my master. Also, A B = B E AB = BE , and E C = C D EC = CD .

Ptolemy : Clever boy! Thus, what is the perimeter of this cyclic quadrilateral A B C D ABCD ?


The answer is 330.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Nov 28, 2018

Let the center of the circle be O O , its radius r = 62.5 r=62.5 , A O B = θ \angle AOB = \theta and A B = B E = x AB=BE=x . Since A B O \triangle ABO and A B E \triangle ABE are similar, A B E = A O B = θ \angle ABE = \angle AOB = \theta . Because A B C D ABCD is a cyclic quadrilateral the diagonal angles A B D = A C D = θ \angle ABD=\angle ACD=\theta . Therefore A O B \triangle AOB , A B E \triangle ABE , and C D E \triangle CDE are similar isosceles triangles.

Then A E A B = A B A O \dfrac {AE}{AB} = \dfrac {AB}{AO} A E = x 2 r \implies AE = \dfrac {x^2}r . And E D E C = E D 2 r A E = x r \dfrac {ED}{EC} = \dfrac {ED}{2r-AE} = \dfrac xr E D = 2 x x 3 r 2 \implies ED = 2x - \dfrac {x^3}{r^2} . Since B D = B E + E D = 3 x x 3 r 2 = 117 BD=BE+ED = 3x - \dfrac {x^3}{r^2} = 117 4 x 3 46875 x + 1828125 = 0 \implies 4x^3 -46875x + 1828125 = 0 . Solving the equation, we get x = A B = 75 x=AB = 75 . C D = r x × D E = 62.5 75 ( 117 75 ) = 35 CD = \dfrac rx \times DE = \dfrac {62.5}{75} (117-75) = 35 . B C = 12 5 2 7 5 2 = 100 BC =\sqrt{125^2-75^2} = 100 , and D A = 12 5 2 3 5 2 = 120 DA =\sqrt{125^2-35^2} = 120 .

Therefore, the perimeter of A B C D ABCD is A B + B C + C D + D A = 75 + 100 + 35 + 120 = 330 AB+BC+CD+DA = 75+100+35+120 = \boxed{330} .

Why does angle abe equals theta

Vedant Saini - 2 years, 6 months ago

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Sorry, I missed a line. Since A B O \triangle ABO and A B E \triangle ABE are similar, A B E = A O B = θ \angle ABE = \angle AOB = \theta .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 6 months ago

I was close. My answer came 339. But answer does not come round figure .

Alapan Das - 2 years, 2 months ago
Vinod Kumar
Dec 28, 2018

Let,

(1) AB=BE=x

(2) EC=CD=y

(3) AE=z

Write using given problem, segment theorem, and solve the following Diophantine equations using WolframAlpha

z+y=125, x+(z*y/x)=117 , get

x=75, y=35 and z=90.

The perimeter is

75+ 35+ √{(125)^2-(75)^2} + √{(125)^2-(35)^2

= 75 + 35 + 100 + 120 = 330

Answer=330

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