Pulse transmission

A triangular deformation (a pulse) is travelling on a tightened string with the speed 5 m/s 5~\mbox{m/s} . The length of the base of the triangle is 30 cm 30~\mbox{cm} . The pulse suddenly reaches a point where the wire connects to a different wire made out of a different material. The pulses travel with the speed 7 m/s 7~\mbox{m/s} in this material. What will be the length of the base of the triangle (length of the pulse) in cm on the other wire?


The answer is 42.

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12 solutions

Ananay Agarwal
Sep 16, 2013

Let us go to the point in time when the front end of the pulse just touches A A . We know, that the distance that the back end of the pulse has to travel to reach A A is 0.3 0.3 . It will take 0.3 5 = 0.06 s \frac{0.3}{5} = 0.06s to do so. But, in these 0.06 0.06 seconds, the front end will travel at 7 m / s 7m/s and will cover a distance of 7 × 0.06 = 0.42 m = 42 c m 7\times 0.06 = 0.42m = 42cm . Now, the back end will also enter the faster medium and travel at the same velocity as the front end. Therefore, the length of the base is 42 c m 42cm

Wouldn't the tension in the string change as the pulse straddles A and thereby perhaps pull the trailing edge of the pulse along faster?

Also, is the answer the same regardless of shape of pulse, e.g. does a sine wave have its wavelength change by the same amount?

Matt McNabb - 7 years, 8 months ago

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The strings of both the materials are attached and tightened together, so they both share the same tension, thus when one part of the pulse is on the string where it moves faster, it won't pull the other part on the other string any faster, for there's no additional tension. It's the tension that keeps the pulse moving, not the pulse that causes tension, at least from the perspective of the mathematical formulations.

Pragjyotish Bhuyan Gogoi - 7 years, 5 months ago

Frequency of the pulse is constant . Nobody used this.

A Brilliant Member - 7 years, 7 months ago

Well explained! Thanks!

Naoki Atkins - 7 years, 8 months ago

perfect

Anuj Gupta - 7 years, 5 months ago
Francis Naldo
Sep 17, 2013

Knowing that the height of the two pulses are the same and;

5 m/s = 30 cm, 7 m/s = ?

regardless of the units of measurements, we can use ratio and proprtion..

( 30 ) ( 7 ) 7 \frac{(30)(7)}{7} = 42 cm

No they are not, amplitude would increase., so would the height of pulse.

Mirza Baig - 7 years, 5 months ago

I also used the same way to figure it out.

Priyesh Pandey - 7 years, 8 months ago

it should be ( 30 ) ( 7 ) 5 \frac{(30)(7)}{5} = 42 cm

Francis Naldo - 7 years, 5 months ago

i also used the equation for DIRECT PROPORTION to find out the answer

Arbel John Sapad - 7 years, 5 months ago
Josh Gaines
Sep 15, 2013

We know that the pulse before it hits the new wire is travelling at 5 m/s. We can call this speed v v . The 30 cm could be called the pulse's period.

To get to 7 m/s in the new wire, we must multiply v v by 7 5 \frac{7}{5} . Because the pulse is dilating itself by 7 5 \frac{7}{5} times as it moves through point A, we just multiply the period, 30 cm, by 7 5 \frac{7}{5} in order to get our answer of 42 cm.

or since spped and wavelenght are directly proportional we can simply use d proportions..

Akash Yadav - 7 years, 5 months ago
Gopal Bhakat
Sep 16, 2013

The frequency of the pulse will remain same at both the wire. So time taken to cover the base of the triangle at 1st case and case will be same. so x/700=30/500,where x is the length of the at 2nd case. i.e x=42 cm

Aditya Ahluwalia
Dec 18, 2013

How much time will it pulse to cross 'A' point? 30 / 500 s e c = 3 / 50 S e c 30/500 sec = 3/50 Sec For this much time we will have speed difference and hence pulse will widen up. At what rate will it widen up? 700 500 c m / s e c = 200 c m / s e c 700-500 cm/sec = 200cm/sec so how much did it widen up? 3 / 50 200 = 12 c m 3/50*200 = 12 cm So the final length will be = 30 + 12 = 42 c m 30 +12 = 42cm

Imran Ali
Dec 17, 2013

5:30=7:x

x= (30/5)*7

John Arlo Real
Dec 17, 2013

5/7 = 0.7143 so, if both cases are the same then; 30/0.7143 = 41.999 or 42 (cm)

Gautam Singh
Dec 16, 2013

Frequency of the travelling wave remains constant, so...

for 1st case f1=(5/30) Hz

for 2nd case f2=(7/x) Hz

Equating those two we get x=42

Mohan Rangam
Dec 16, 2013

Speed= (dist. traveled /time taken) => time taken = (dist. traveled / speed)

from first case, T= 30/5

from second case, T = X/7

so, 30/5=X/7

X=42

Harsh Pancholi
Dec 16, 2013

wave velocity=wavelength.frequency, As the frequency remains constant for a wave producing source , wavelength would be proportional to velocity.

Noel Pascua
Dec 15, 2013

5:30 7:x
cross multiply: 7*30 over 5 which gives you 42.

Romain Speciel
Sep 19, 2013

As the speed is 5m/s on the first wire and the gap is of 30 cm, we can deduce that if the speed was 1m/s, the gap would be of 6 cm. On the second wire though, the speed changes to 7 m/s (which is 7 x 1m/s), so we must multiply 6 cm by 7 too. 6 x 7 = 42, and that is equal to the length of the gap (which also happens to be the answer).

Let speed Is V , and Base Is D In The 1st one V=D/T T= D/V T=30/5 T=6 ...... In The 2nd one. V=D/T D=V T D=7 6 D=42

ḾoĦaḿeď Ḃąđawi - 7 years, 5 months ago

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