Pythagorean Triples Problem

Geometry Level 3

Find the value of n n such that the set { n , n + 1 , 131 } \{ n, n+1, 131 \} form the side lengths of a right angled triangle.


The answer is 8580.

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2 solutions

Jacob Umans
May 27, 2015

According to the Pythagorean Theorem,

{ 131 }^{ 2 }+{ n }^{ 2 }={ (n+1) }^{ 2 }.

Therefore the difference between { n }^{ 2 } and { (n+1) }^{ 2 } is 17161

The formula for the difference between squares is { (n+1) }^{ 2 }={ n }^{ 2 }+(2n+1) where n is any positive integer.

Since the difference of squares is 17161, it is known that

17161=2n+1, therefore

17160=2n, therefore

8580=n.

Verifying { 131 }^{ 2 }+{ 8580 }^{ 2 }={ 8581 }^{ 2 }, the solution is proven to be correct

Moderator note:

Why couldn't 131 131 be the largest of these three numbers? That is, why can't 131 131 be the hypotenuse of a right triangle with sides n n and n + 1 n+1 ?

You need to explain why 131 131 cannot be the largest side of a Pythagoras Triplet, ( n , n + 1 , 131 ) (n,n+1,131) .

I'm under the assumption that n n must be an integer, else there would be more than 1 solution.

Here's my working:

Suppose it is possible, then by Pythagoras Theorem, n 2 + ( n + 1 ) 2 = 13 1 2 n^2 + (n+1)^2 = 131^2 , then 2 n 2 + 2 n 17160 = 0 2n^2 + 2n - 17160 = 0 , or n 2 + n 8580 = 0 n^2 + n - 8580 = 0 . Note that the discriminant of the quadratic equation above is B 2 4 A C = 34321 B^2- 4AC = 34321 which isn't a perfect square, thus it can't have integer root. In other words, there can't have integer lengths of a right triangle of lengths n , n + 1 , 131 n,n+1,131 with 131 131 as its hypotenuse.

Bonus questions:

  1. In the working above, why didn't I solve the quadratic equation, but instead just determine the property of its discriminant? Is it sufficient that it be a perfect square to have integer root(s)? Why or why not?

  2. Prove that no right triangles with integer sides have a hypotenuse of length 131 131 .

IF I31 IS THE HYPOTENUSE THEN HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM

Praful Jain - 6 years ago

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I assumed that 131 was the hypotenuse when attempting this. We know 131 is not the hypotenuse because it is impossible for it to be. I used a trial and error method. Here's what I did:

I knew the units digit would be 1, so I wrote down the squares of all one digit numbers.
0: 0 , 1: 1 , 2: 4 , 3: 9 , 4:1 6 , 5:2 5 , 6:3 6 , 7:4 9 , 8:6 4 , 9:8 1
Then I narrowed down the possible ones digits to either 5 and 6, 0 and 1 , or 0 and 9 because these were only only pairs that were one apart and whose squares add to a number that has a units digit of 1. Next I began to try the numbers.
5 and 6: 85^2 + 86^2=14621, 95^2 + 96^2=18241
0 and 1: 90^2 + 91^2=16381, 100^2 + 101^2=20201
0 and 9: 80^2 + 89^2= 14321, 90^2 + 99^2=17901


Ethan Ooamii - 6 years ago

I'm sorry that the formatting of the exponents did not show up correctly

Jacob Umans - 6 years ago

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According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_triple

In the Pythagorean triple (x, y, z) x^2 + y^2 = z^2 i.e., x < z and y < z.

So, I think the question is not written accurately.

You can say that:

Assume that n, n+1 and 131 are three integers in a Pythagorean triple. What is the value of n?

Best regards,

Alhussain Aly - 6 years ago
Jaimin Pandya
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