Quadratic fun-2

Algebra Level 5

Find the sum of all positive integers a a such that

( x a ) ( x 12 ) + 2 (x-a)(x-12)+2

can be factored as ( x + b ) ( x + c ) (x+b)(x+c) where b b and c c are integers.


The answer is 24.

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2 solutions

Kartik Sharma
Oct 4, 2014

As Abhineet has rightly said, to have integral roots, discriminant must be a 0 or a perfect square which can easily be derived by the quadratic formula.

It is only required to find the sum but had the question been finding the values of a too, then Abhineet's sol will be clearly misleading.

( 12 + a ) 2 4 ( 12 a + 2 ) = z 2 {(12+a)}^{2} - 4(12a + 2) = {z}^{2} for any integer z.

CASE 1 - When ( 12 + a ) 2 4 ( 12 a ) = 12 a 2 {(12+a)}^2 - 4(12a) = {12-a}^{2}

( 12 a ) 2 8 = z 2 {(12-a)}^{2} - 8 = {z}^{2}

( 12 a ) 2 z 2 = 8 {(12-a)}^{2} - {z}^{2} = 8

( 12 a z ) ( 12 a + z ) = 8 (12- a - z)(12- a + z) = 8

Now 8 = 4 2 or 8 = 2 4 are same in finding solutions for a because its sign(negative or positive) doesn't change. Also, 8 = 8*1 can also not be the case because if it is so, then a will come as decimals.

Therefore,

12 a z = 4 12-a -z = 4 - > a + z = 8 a + z = 8

12 a + z = 2 12-a + z = 2 - > a z = 10 a - z= 10

Therefore, a = 9

CASE 2 - When ( 12 + a ) 2 4 ( 12 a ) = a 12 2 {(12+a)}^2 - 4(12a) = {a-12}^{2}

Similarly,

( a 12 z ) ( a 12 + z ) = 8 (a-12-z)(a-12+z) = 8

a 12 z = 4 a - 12 - z = 4 -> a z = 16 a - z = 16

a 12 + z = 2 a - 12 + z = 2 -> a + z = 14 a + z = 14

Therefore, a = 15

So, the sum of all possible positive integers a is 15 + 9 = 24 \boxed{24}

nice solution @Kartik Sharma

Mardokay Mosazghi - 6 years, 8 months ago

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You might be getting correct answer but the method is wrong. this is because the values of a you are getting are not positive integers.

Solutions are 9 and 15!

Why you need to take a wrong assumption? That might have given you a right answer here but it leads to misunderstanding. Good crack by the way! You can see my solution !

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 8 months ago

Nice one. .

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 8 months ago

Totally Incorrect solution... It is Nice question But you had Killed beauty of this Question

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 8 months ago

you have to consider all the possiblities,just because any possiblity is hard you cannt ignore it,other wise it will lead to serious error.even if you arenot considering all possiblities then plz put values and check at evry step.you have to calculate sum of all integral values of a but that expression a^2-24a+136=0 doesnt has any integral root. for experienced persons who know where they have to round off error it is good and efficient way which will save time.but for students and newbies it is seriously misleading

aash raj - 5 years, 11 months ago

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