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Algebra Level 3

if root of the equation x 2 10 c x 11 d = 0 { x }^{ 2 }-10cx-11d=0 are a,b and those of x 2 10 a x 11 b = 0 { x }^{ 2 }-10ax-11b=0 are c,d then find the value of a+b+c+d (where a,b,c,d are distinct numbers)

1210 1480 1340 1110

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3 solutions

Ke Pradeep
Jul 18, 2014

a+b=10c c+d=10a ab=-11d cd=-11b abcd=121bd which implies ac=121,the factors of 121 are 1,11 and 121 As the numbers are unique,a and c should be 1 and 121 to satisfy the condition. And a+b+c+d=10(a+c) which gives the answer as 10(122)=1220 So I think the given answer is wrong and the answer is not there in the options

You got the wrong answer because your processing of ac = 121 works only if a and c are integers. Unfortunately, the problem does not state whether any of the roots are integers.

Michael Fischer - 6 years, 10 months ago

Your answer is wrong since there is a substitution mistake. 10 ( a + c ) = 10 121 = 1210. 10(a+c)=10 * 121 =1210.
Your method is perfect.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 8 months ago
Andy Shue
Oct 5, 2014

We know if f(x) has roots a,b then f(a)=f(b)=0 so...

a 2 10 a c 11 d = c 2 10 a c 11 b a^{2}-10ac-11d=c^{2}-10ac-11b

a 2 11 d = c 2 11 b a^{2}-11d=c^{2}-11b

a 2 c 2 = 11 d 11 b a^{2}-c^{2}=11d-11b

( a + c ) ( a c ) = 11 ( d b ) (a+c)(a-c)=11(d-b)

( a + c ) = 11 d b a c (a+c)=11\frac{d-b}{a-c}

Using sum of roots we can determine that

a + b = 10 c a+b=10c

c + d = 10 a c+d=10a

using these we can determine that...

( a + b ) + ( c + d ) = 10 a + 10 c (a+b)+(c+d)=10a+10c

a + b + c + d = 10 ( a + c ) a+b+c+d=10(a+c)

and..

c + d ( a + b ) = 10 a 10 c c+d-(a+b)=10a-10c

d b = 11 ( a c ) d-b=11(a-c)

Summarizing, we know now that

a + b + c + d = 10 ( a + c ) a+b+c+d=10(a+c)

( a + c ) = 11 d b a c (a+c)=11\frac{d-b}{a-c}

d b = 11 ( a c ) d-b=11(a-c)

therefore

a + b + c + d = 10 ( a + c ) a+b+c+d=10(a+c)

= 10 11 d b a c =10*11\frac{d-b}{a-c}

= 110 11 ( a c ) a c =110\frac{11(a-c)}{a-c}

= 110 11 =110*11

= 1210 =\boxed{1210}

Anas Salhi
Jul 12, 2014

we know that a,b are the roots of the first equation and c,d are the rotes of the second equation

\left{ x²-10cx-11bx=0\ x²-10ax-11bx=0 \right \Longrightarrow -10cx-11dx=-10ax-11bx\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \Longrightarrow 10(ax-cx)=11(dx-bx)

thatwhy the value of a+b+c+d must be a multiple of 10 and 11 and the only root how respect this condition is 1210

You can't equal those two equations because they don't have the same roots.

Aldo Culquicondor - 6 years, 10 months ago

{ x 2 10 c x 11 d = 0 x 2 10 a x 11 b = 0 } 10 c x 11 d x = 10 a x 11 b x \{~~ x^2-10cx-11d=0~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ x^2-10ax-11b=0 ~~\} \\ \Longrightarrow -10cx-11dx=-10ax-11bx~~\\ 10 ( a x c x ) = 11 ( d x b x ) \Longrightarrow 10(ax-cx)=11(dx-bx) \\
That is why the value of a+b+c+d must be a multiple of 10 and 11 and the only root how respect this condition is 1210

Just used Latex properly. It begins with \ ( and ends with \ ) , ....use \ { .... and... \ }. Note there should be NO space between \ and (,),{,}. I had to keep it for technical reason. In my notes also there is a Latex notes. However please note that your method is not correct as stated by Aldo Culquicondor below.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 8 months ago

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