Radius Ratio #1

Geometry Level 4

Consider 2 circles of radius a and b ( b > a) both lying in the first quadrant and touching both coordinate axes.

If the 2 circles intersect each other orthogonally

Then b a \frac{b}{a} can be written as

x + y \displaystyle x + \sqrt{y} , where 'y' is square free

Then find

x y 2 \displaystyle xy^{2}


The answer is 18.

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2 solutions

Ujjwal Rane
Nov 2, 2014

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Since the circles of radii a and b lie in the first quadrant and are touching both axes, the two centers would be (a,a) and (b,b) Their centers C1, C2 along with the point of orthogonal intersection T would form a right angle triangle, because they intersect orthogonally. a 2 + b 2 = D 2 a^2 + b^2 = D^2 Where D = distance between C1 and C2, which can also be written as D = 2 b 2 a D = \sqrt{2}b - \sqrt{2}a Equating the two expressions for D we get b a = 2 + 3 \frac{b}{a} = 2 + \sqrt{3}

Another elegant solution, Ujjwal. I was about to write a relatively messy algebraic solution involving 3 equation and 3 unknowns, but you saved me from having to do that. Thanks. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Thank you Brian! Always a pleasure and privilege to hear from you.

Ujjwal Rane - 6 years, 7 months ago
Krishna Sharma
Nov 3, 2014

Alright this problem is not that messy

As the circles touch both the coordinate axes their centers will be same the radius i.e.

(a , a) And (b, b)

Equation of circle can be written as

x 2 + y 2 + 2 g x + 2 f y + c = 0 x^{2} + y^{2} + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0

r a d i u s = g 2 + f 2 c radius = \sqrt{ g^{2} + f^{2} - c}

Centre is (-g, -f)

here we have equation as

x 2 + y 2 2 a x 2 a y + a 2 = 0 x^{2} + y^{2} - 2ax - 2ay + a^{2} = 0

And

x 2 + y 2 2 b x 2 b y + b 2 = 0 x^{2} + y^{2} - 2bx - 2by + b^{2} = 0

For circle which are orthogonal we have condition

2 g 1 g 2 + 2 f 1 f 2 = c 1 + c 2 2g_1g_2 + 2f_1f_2 = c_1 + c_2

Substituting values we will have

2ab + 2ab = a 2 + b 2 a^{2} + b^{2}

Dividing by 'ab' we have

b a + a b = 4 \frac{b}{a} + \frac{a}{b} = 4

Let b a = t \frac{b}{a} = t

We will have

t 2 4 t + 1 = 0 \displaystyle t^{2} - 4t + 1 = 0

Solving for 't' we will have

b a = 2 + 3 \frac{b}{a} = \boxed{2 + \sqrt{3}}

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