Rational & Irrational

Algebra Level 5

If cos θ \cos\theta is irrational, find maximum positive integer n n such that cos 2 θ , cos 3 θ , , cos n θ \cos 2\theta,\cos 3\theta,\cdots,\cos n\theta are all rational.


The answer is 4.

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Mark Hennings
Mar 19, 2019

Since cos 2 θ = 2 cos 2 θ 1 \cos2\theta = 2\cos^2\theta - 1 , we must have cos 2 θ Q \cos^2\theta \in \mathbb{Q} if we want n 2 n \ge 2 . Since cos 3 θ = 4 cos 3 θ 3 cos θ = ( 4 cos 2 θ 3 ) cos θ \cos3\theta \; = \; 4\cos^3\theta - 3\cos\theta \; = \; (4\cos^2\theta - 3)\cos\theta we must have cos 2 θ = 3 4 \cos^2\theta = \tfrac34 if we want n 3 n \ge 3 .

  • If cos θ = 1 2 3 \cos\theta = \tfrac12\sqrt{3} then θ ± 1 6 π ( m o d 2 π ) \theta \equiv \pm \tfrac16\pi \pmod{2\pi} , and so cos 2 θ = 1 2 \cos2\theta = \tfrac12 , cos 3 θ = 0 \cos3\theta = 0 , cos 4 θ = 1 2 \cos4\theta = -\tfrac12 , but cos 5 θ = 1 2 3 \cos5\theta = -\tfrac12\sqrt{3} .

  • If cos θ = 1 2 3 \cos\theta = -\tfrac12\sqrt{3} then θ ± 5 6 π ( m o d 2 π ) \theta \equiv \pm\tfrac56\pi \pmod{2\pi} , and so cos 2 θ = 1 2 \cos2\theta = \tfrac12 , cos 3 θ = 0 \cos3\theta = 0 , cos 4 θ = 1 2 \cos4\theta = -\tfrac12 and cos 5 θ = 1 2 3 \cos5\theta = \tfrac12\sqrt{3} .

Thus n = 4 n = \boxed{4} .

Hi, sir. Could you please give a solution to this problem without using calculus of variations?

Brian Lie - 2 years, 2 months ago

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@Brian Lie What was your approach, if not calculus of variations??? (just curious...)

Aaghaz Mahajan - 2 years, 2 months ago

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I have no idea without calculus of variations, but this problem comes from summer camp exam about Calculus and Linear Algebra.

Brian Lie - 2 years, 2 months ago

Posted! We just need the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality.

Mark Hennings - 2 years, 2 months ago

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So brilliant! Thank you.

Brian Lie - 2 years, 2 months ago
Peter Macgregor
Mar 19, 2019

We can solve the problem in two parts. First we show that we can meet the conditions when n=4. As an example take x = π 6 x=\frac{\pi}{6} . Then

c o s ( x ) = c o s ( π 6 ) = 3 2 Q cos(x)=cos(\frac{\pi}{6})=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\notin Q as required. And for n=2,3,4 the other conditions are met

c o s ( 2 x ) = c o s ( 2 π 6 ) = 1 2 Q cos(2x)=cos(\frac{2\pi}{6})=\frac{1}{2}\in Q

c o s ( 3 x ) = c o s ( 3 π 6 ) = 0 Q cos(3x)=cos(\frac{3\pi}{6})=0\in Q

c o s ( 4 x ) = c o s ( 4 π 6 ) = 1 2 Q cos(4x)=cos(\frac{4\pi}{6})=-\frac{1}{2}\in Q

Next we show that the conditions always fail when n=5. Using the well known addition formula it is not too hard to show that

c o s 5 x = 2 c o s ( 4 x ) c o s ( x ) c o s ( 3 x ) ( 1 ) cos5x=2cos(4x)cos(x)-cos(3x) \dots(1)

Now suppose we have managed to choose an x so that

c o s ( x ) Q cos(x)\notin Q

c o s ( 3 x ) Q cos(3x)\in Q

c o s ( 4 x ) Q cos(4x)\in Q

Then equation (1) shows that c o s ( 5 x ) = rational × irrational rational = irrational Q cos(5x)=\text{rational}\times \text{irrational}-\text{rational}=\text{irrational}\notin Q

And so the maximum value of n is 4 \boxed{\text{4}}

'Tetchy bits and bobs'

One thing that could go wrong with this argument is that in (1) we might have c o s ( 4 x ) = 0 cos(4x)=0 which would eliminate the irrational part of the RHS. However in this case we have x = π 8 x=\frac{\pi}{8} in which case c o s ( 3 x ) = c o s ( 3 π 8 ) = 2 2 2 Q cos(3x)=cos(\frac{3\pi}{8})=\frac{\sqrt{2-\sqrt{2}}}{2}\notin Q and we have already failed!

This question is posed poorly. The way it's posed, it asks for a value of n such that cos 2 \theta,... cos n\theta are all rational, no matter what cos theta is .

It needs to be phrased as "what is the greatest value of n for which there exists an angle theta for which cos theta is irrational and yet cos (2theta), cos (3theta)...cos(ntheta) are all rational?"

Richard Desper - 2 years, 2 months ago

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