A calculus problem by Rakshit Joshi

Calculus Level 2

Let p ( x ) p(x) be a non-constant polynomial function such that there exists a real number a a for which p ( a ) 0 , p ( a ) = 0 , p ( a ) = 0. p(a) \ne 0,\quad p'(a)=0,\quad p''(a)=0.

True or False?

At least one root of p ( x ) p(x) is non-real.

True False

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3 solutions

Arjen Vreugdenhil
Sep 17, 2017

Relevant wiki: Remainder Factor Theorem - Advanced

Let f ( x ) = A ( x r 1 ) ( x r 2 ) ( x r n ) f(x) = A(x - r_1)(x - r_2)\cdots(x - r_n) , with r i r_i the complex or real roots (with multiplicity) and A 0 A \not = 0 . Then

f ( x ) = f ( x ) i 1 x r i f'(x) = f(x)\sum_i \frac{1}{x - r_i}

If f ( a ) = 0 f'(a) = 0 but f ( a ) 0 f(a) \not= 0 , then the sum 1 a r i = 0 \sum \frac{1}{a - r_i} = 0 . Also,

f ( x ) = f ( x ) i j 1 ( x r i ) ( x r j ) = f ( x ) ( i 1 x r i ) 2 f ( x ) i 1 ( x r i ) 2 = ( f ( x ) ) 2 f ( x ) f ( x ) i 1 ( x r i ) 2 . f''(x) = f(x)\sum_{i \not = j} \frac{1}{(x-r_i)(x-r_j)} = f(x)\left(\sum_i \frac{1}{x-r_i}\right)^2 - f(x)\sum_i \frac{1}{(x-r_i)^2} = \frac{(f'(x))^2}{f(x)} - f(x)\sum_i \frac{1}{(x-r_i)^2}.

If f ( a ) 0 f(a) \not = 0 , f ( a ) = 0 f'(a) = 0 , and f ( a ) = 0 f''(a) = 0 then also the last term 1 ( a r i ) 2 = 0 \sum \frac{1}{(a - r_i)^2} = 0 . But this requires some of the ( a r i ) 2 (a-r_i)^2 to have a negative real part; hence some r i r_i are complex.

Nice proof.

Daniel Juncos - 3 years, 8 months ago

Great proof !! Thank you.

Hamza Mahmood - 3 years, 8 months ago
Mark Hennings
Sep 7, 2017

Relevant wiki: Vieta's Formula Problem Solving - Advanced

By translation, we can assume, without loss of generality, that a = 0 a = 0 . Then we are told that p ( x ) = a n x n + a n 1 x n 1 + + a 3 x 3 + a 2 x 2 + a 1 x + a 0 p(x) \; = \; a_nx^n + a_{n-1}x^{n-1} + \cdots + a_3x^3 + a_2x^2 + a_1x + a_0 where a 2 = a 1 = 0 a_2 = a_1 = 0 and a 0 0 a_0 \neq 0 . If the roots of p ( x ) p(x) are α 1 , α 2 , . . . , α n \alpha_1,\alpha_2,...,\alpha_n , then we know, using Vieta's Formulae, that the roots are all nonzero and that j = 1 n α j 1 = a 1 a 0 = 0 1 j < k n α j 1 α k 1 = a 2 a 0 = 0 \sum_{j=1}^n \alpha_j^{-1} \; = \; - \frac{a_1}{a_0} \; = \; 0 \hspace{2cm} \sum_{1 \le j < k \le n} \alpha_j^{-1}\alpha_k^{-1} \; = \; \frac{a_2}{a_0} \; = \; 0 It follows that j = 1 n α j 2 = ( j = 1 n α j 1 ) 2 2 1 j < k n α j 1 α k 1 = 0 \sum_{j=1}^n \alpha_j^{-2} \; = \; \left(\sum_{j=1}^n \alpha_j^{-1}\right)^2 - 2\sum_{1 \le j < k \le n}\alpha_j^{-1}\alpha_k^{-1} \; = \; 0 which makes it impossible for all the α j \alpha_j to be real.

Bardley Goddard
Sep 20, 2017

A simple example would be p(x) = x^4 + x^3 + i, where x = 0

One example of a function that meets the criteria and has non-real roots doesn't mean all functions that meet the criteria will have non-real roots. If these questions were asking for a single example they would be very easy.

Grayson Moses - 3 years, 8 months ago

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