Remember the aim in archery?

Geometry Level 5

There are 3 concentric circles with center O O and radii 3 , 5 , 7 3,5,7 units.

Points A , B , C A,B,C are on these circles, one on each circle.

Find the maximum value of A B 2 + B C 2 + C A 2 AB^2+BC^2+CA^2 in sq. units.


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C'mon! Archery is irrelevant here!

There's no Archery without Aim!

Only looks like Archery Aim -_-


The answer is 249.

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2 solutions

Kartik Sharma
Mar 15, 2015

Well, the inequality Hari prasad Vardarajan has given is correct and the following is the proof -

P A = a , P B = b , P C = c , A P B = x , B P C = y , C P A = z PA = a, PB = b, PC = c, APB = x, BPC = y, CPA = z

Using cosine rule,

A B 2 + B C 2 + C A 2 = 2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 a b c o s ( x ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) 2 c a c o s ( z ) {AB}^{2} + {BC}^{2} + {CA}^{2} = 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) - 2abcos(x) - 2bccos(y) - 2cacos(z)

= 2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 a b c o s ( x ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) 2 c a ( c o s ( 2 π ( x + y ) ) ) = 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) - 2abcos(x) - 2bccos(y) - 2ca(cos(2\pi-(x+y))) [ x + y + z = 2 π x+ y + z = 2\pi ]

= 2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 a b c o s ( x ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) 2 c a c o s ( x ) c o s ( y ) + 2 c a s i n ( x ) s i n ( y ) = 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) - 2abcos(x) - 2bccos(y) - 2cacos(x)cos(y) + 2casin(x)sin(y)

= 2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) c o s ( x ) ( 2 a b + 2 c a c o s ( y ) ) + s i n ( x ) ( 2 c a s i n ( y ) ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) = 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) - cos(x)(2ab +2cacos(y))+ sin(x)(2casin(y)) - 2bccos(y)

= 2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + c o s ( x ) ( 2 a b 2 c a c o s ( y ) ) + s i n ( x ) ( 2 c a s i n ( y ) ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) = 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) + cos(x)(-2ab -2cacos(y))+ sin(x)(2casin(y)) - 2bccos(y)

We know a c o s ( x ) + b s i n ( x ) acos(x) + bsin(x) has maximum at a 2 + b 2 \sqrt{{a}^{2} + {b}^{2}}

2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + ( 2 a b + 2 c a c o s ( y ) ) 2 + ( 2 c a s i n ( y ) ) 2 2 b c c o s ( y ) \le 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) + \sqrt{{(2ab + 2cacos(y))}^{2} + {(2casin(y))}^{2}} - 2bccos(y)

2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + 4 a 2 b 2 + 4 c 2 a 2 c o s 2 ( y ) + 4 a 2 b c c o s ( y ) + 4 a 2 c 2 s i n 2 ( y ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) \le 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) + \sqrt{4{a}^{2}{b}^{2} + 4{c}^{2}{a}^{2}{cos}^{2}(y) + 4{a}^{2}bccos(y) + 4{a}^{2}{c}^{2}{sin}^{2}(y)} - 2bccos(y)

2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + 4 a 2 b 2 + 4 c 2 a 2 ( c o s 2 ( y ) + s i n 2 ( y ) ) + 4 a 2 b c c o s ( y ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) \le 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) + \sqrt{4{a}^{2}{b}^{2} + 4{c}^{2}{a}^{2}({cos}^{2}(y) + {sin}^{2}(y))+ 4{a}^{2}bccos(y)} - 2bccos(y)

2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + 4 a 2 ( b 2 + c 2 ) + 4 a 2 b c c o s ( y ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) \le 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) + \sqrt{4{a}^{2}({b}^{2}+{c}^{2})+ 4{a}^{2}bccos(y)} - 2bccos(y)

2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + 2 a b 2 + c 2 + b c c o s ( y ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) \le 2({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}) + 2a\sqrt{{b}^{2}+{c}^{2}+ bccos(y)} - 2bccos(y)

If we take derivative of the second part of the above equation involving y y w.r.t. y y , we get where the equality will hold and the maximum which will just be a 2 + b 2 + c 2 {a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2}

After adding, we get

A B 2 + B C 2 + C A 2 3 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) {AB}^{2} + {BC}^{2} + {CA}^{2} \le 3({a}^{2} + {b}^{2} + {c}^{2})

Well, actually I did it just by taking direct values and after I saw Hari's solution, I just saw that there is a general case.

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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What are the values for which equality is reached? I can't figure out what the conditions for equality in your proof are.

Siddhartha Srivastava - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Differentiate this - 2 a b 2 + c 2 + b c c o s ( y ) 2 b c c o s ( y ) 2a\sqrt{{b}^{2}+{c}^{2}+ bccos(y)} - 2bccos(y) w.r.t. to y y and equate to 0 0 , you get the value of y y fr which the equation satisfies. The value of x x is found as a c o s x + b s i n x = R s i n ( x α ) acosx + bsinx = Rsin(x - \alpha) and so on.

And z z is just 2 π x y 2\pi - x - y , so you get the equality conditions which depend on the angles.

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

In a triangle ABC and for a point in space,there is inequality

A B 2 + B C 2 + C A 2 AB^2+BC^2+CA^2 is less than or equal to 3( P A 2 + P B 2 + P C 2 PA^2+PB^2+PC^2 )

Now if we take the point P to be the center then the rest is easy......

But from what I see so far, then 249 is an upper bound. How to show the value is actually achieved?

Brian Kelly - 6 years, 3 months ago

where do you find this inequality?

Writabrata Bhattacharya - 6 years, 3 months ago

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I learned it in vectors lesson....

Hari prasad Varadarajan - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Thaks... I tried and did it using geometry

Writabrata Bhattacharya - 6 years, 3 months ago

@Hari prasad Varadarajan I have shared the proof!

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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That's great....

Hari prasad Varadarajan - 6 years, 3 months ago

Nicely done, thanks.

Brian Kelly - 6 years, 3 months ago

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