Rooting For The Underdog Die

You and your friend are playing a dice game with the following rules:

  • You roll a fair 6-sided die, and your friend rolls a fair 8-sided die.
  • Whoever rolls higher wins the game.
  • If the rolls are the same, you will win the game.

If the probability that you win this game is a b \dfrac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime positive integers, what is a + b a+b ?


The answer is 23.

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2 solutions

Andy Hayes
Apr 29, 2016

Relevant wiki: Probability - Problem Solving

If you roll a 1 1 , then your opponent has 1 1 possible roll that would allow you to win (If he rolled a 1 1 ).

If you roll a 2 2 , then your opponent has 2 2 possible rolls that would allow you to win (If he rolled a 1 1 or a 2 2 ).

If you roll a 3 3 , then your opponent has 3 3 possible rolls that would allow you to win.

This pattern continues for all of your 6 6 possible rolls. Each of your rolls has a 1 6 \large\frac{1}{6} probability. Meanwhile, each of your opponent's rolls has a 1 8 \large\frac{1}{8} probability.

Your roll and your opponent's rolls are independent , and so we calculate the probability of winning by multiplying the probability of your roll by the probability of your opponent's roll.

P ( you roll a 1 ) P ( your opponent rolls a 1 ) = 1 6 × 1 8 P(\text{you roll a 1}) \cap P(\text{your opponent rolls a 1})={\large\frac{1}{6}}\times{\large\frac{1}{8}}

P ( you roll a 2 ) P ( your opponent rolls a 2 or less ) = 1 6 × 2 8 P(\text{you roll a 2}) \cap P(\text{your opponent rolls a 2 or less})={\large\frac{1}{6}}\times{\large\frac{2}{8}}

P ( you roll a 3 ) P ( your opponent rolls a 3 or less ) = 1 6 × 3 8 P(\text{you roll a 3}) \cap P(\text{your opponent rolls a 3 or less})={\large\frac{1}{6}}\times{\large\frac{3}{8}}

and so on \ldots\text{and so on}

These probabilities are mutually exclusive, and so we can use the Rule of Sum to find P ( you win ) P(\text{you win}) .

Summing the probabilities yields P ( you win ) = 7 16 P(\text{you win})={\large\frac{7}{16}} , and so a + b = 23 a+b=\boxed{23} .

Patrick Feltes
Jun 17, 2016

If you roll n n , you have an n 8 \frac{n}{8} chance of winning.

So, the probability of winning is

P ( You Win ) = 1 6 ( 6 8 + 5 8 + 4 8 + 3 8 + 2 8 + 1 8 ) = 7 16 P(\text{You Win})=\frac{1}{6}(\frac{6}{8} + \frac{5}{8} + \frac{4}{8} + \frac{3}{8} + \frac{2}{8} + \frac{1}{8})=\frac{7}{16}

Since 7 7 and 16 16 are coprime, their sum, 23 23 is the solution.

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