Roots in a geometric progression

Algebra Level 3

If a , b a,b are roots of x 2 12 x + p = 0 x^2-12x+p=0 and b , c b,c are the roots of x 2 15 x + q = 0 x^2-15x+q=0 and a , b , c a,b,c are in geometric progression , then find the value of p + q p+q .

Give your answer up to 2 decimal places.


The answer is 91.11.

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Let the common ratio be r r . Then b = a r b = ar and c = a r 2 c = ar^{2} . By Vieta's we have that

a + b = 12 , a b = p a + b = 12, ab = p and b + c = 15 , b c = q b + c = 15, bc = q .

Thus a + a r = a ( 1 + r ) = 12 a + ar = a(1 + r) = 12 and a r + a r 2 = a r ( 1 + r ) = 15 ar + ar^{2} = ar(1 + r) = 15 , and so

a r ( 1 + r ) a ( 1 + r ) = 15 12 r = 5 4 \dfrac{ar(1 + r)}{a(1 + r)} = \dfrac{15}{12} \Longrightarrow r = \dfrac{5}{4} .

We then have that a = 12 1 + r = 12 1 + 5 4 = 48 9 = 16 3 a = \dfrac{12}{1 + r} = \dfrac{12}{1 + \dfrac{5}{4}} = \dfrac{48}{9} = \dfrac{16}{3} .

Then b = 16 3 5 4 = 20 3 b = \dfrac{16}{3}*\dfrac{5}{4} = \dfrac{20}{3} and c = 16 3 25 16 = 25 3 c = \dfrac{16}{3}*\dfrac{25}{16} = \dfrac{25}{3} .

Finally, p + q = a b + b c = b ( a + c ) = 20 3 ( 16 3 + 25 3 ) = 20 41 9 = 91.11 p + q = ab + bc = b(a + c) = \dfrac{20}{3}*\left(\dfrac{16}{3} + \dfrac{25}{3}\right) = \dfrac{20*41}{9} = \boxed{91.11} to 2 decimal places.

The same way. But your explanation is detailed that helps any one new.

Niranjan Khanderia - 5 years, 3 months ago

Same solution!

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 3 months ago

Ahmad N
Feb 18, 2016

we know that a+b=12 and b+c=15, so we know a+2b+c=27

I thought the number with the ratio 2, with a=3, then b=6, c=12

so we could prove that a+2b+c=27 (3)+2(6)+12=3+12+12=27

so know we move to p and q. we learn that p=ab and q=cb,

thus p+q=ab+bc=b(a+c)=6(3+12)=6(15)=90

Did I do something wrong? cause my answer was also correct :3

Yes. Your values of a , b , c a,b,c don't satisfy the equations a + b = 12 b + c = 15 a+b=12 \\ b+c=15

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Ahh I see, thanks!

Ahmad N - 5 years, 3 months ago

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And also your answer doesn't match the original answer.

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

Its rubbish

Pranav Jayaprakasan UT - 4 years, 4 months ago
Genis Dude
Feb 5, 2017

a+b=12. eq1 ab=p

b+c=15. eq2 bc=q

a,b,c are in GP Therefore, b²=ac Eq3

Adding eq1 and eq2 gives

a+c+2b=27 Eq4

By Eq3 c=b²/a (Substite c in Eq 4)

a+(b²/a)+2b=27(multiply 'a' on both side)

a²+b²+2ab=27a

Therefore, (a+b)²=27a (but a+b =12)

Therefore a=144/27

→a=16/3 , b=20/3 , c=25/3

p+q=b(a+c)

→p+q=820/9

→p+q=91.1111111

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