Rope On Cylinder

A thin, inextensible rope is placed on a cylinder as in the figure above. The radius is R = 1 m R=1\text{ m} . The friction coefficient between the rope and surface is μ = 0.5 \mu =0.5 . The total length of the rope is L = 10 m L=10\text{ m} . What is the maximum ratio y x \dfrac{y}{x} so the rope won't start to slip?

Give your answer to 2 decimal places.

Hints :

After writing the equilibrium equations make the following assumptions:

  • sin d θ 2 d θ 2 \sin \dfrac{d\theta }{2}\approx \dfrac{d\theta }{2} .

  • cos d θ 2 1 \cos \dfrac{d\theta }{2}\approx 1 .

You will also encounter a term of the form d θ d T d\theta dT which you have to neglect.

There is gravity, but the mass of the rope and the gravitational acceleration will eventually simplify.


The answer is 17.03.

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1 solution

Adrian Aruștei
Apr 9, 2016

Let's consider a very small element of the rope. We will draw the forces acting on it like in the following picture.

The weight of the element can be written as G = g d m = g λ R d θ G=gdm=g\lambda Rd\theta . The linear density of the rope λ \lambda measured in k g m \frac{kg}{m} . Now we write the equations of equilibrium. { N = g λ R d θ sin θ + T sin d θ 2 + ( T + d T ) sin d θ 2 ( T + d T ) cos d θ 2 = T cos d θ 2 + g R λ d θ cos θ + μ N \left\{ \begin{matrix} N=g\lambda Rd\theta \sin \theta +T\sin \frac{d\theta }{2}+\left( T+dT \right)\sin \frac{d\theta }{2} \\ \left( T+dT \right)\cos \frac{d\theta }{2}=T\cos \frac{d\theta }{2}+gR\lambda d\theta \cos \theta +\mu N \\ \end{matrix} \right. Now we make the assumption that d θ d\theta is very small: cos d θ 2 1 \cos \frac{d\theta }{2}\approx 1 , s i n d θ 2 d θ 2 sin \frac{d\theta }{2}\approx \frac{d\theta }{2} . Also we will ignore the d θ d T d\theta dT term in the first equation. { N = g λ R d θ sin θ + T d θ d T = g R λ d θ cos θ + μ N \left\{ \begin{matrix} N=g\lambda Rd\theta \sin \theta +Td\theta \\ dT=gR\lambda d\theta \cos \theta +\mu N \\ \end{matrix} \right. Be careful that θ \theta is not small and cannot be simplified. After substituting the normal force and making some calculations we get: d T d θ μ T = g R λ cos θ + μ g R λ sin θ \frac{dT}{d\theta }-\mu T=gR\lambda \cos \theta +\mu gR\lambda \sin \theta This is a first-order nonhomogeneous linear ordinary differential equation with the tension force as a function of angle: T ( θ ) T(\theta ) . At the initial condition the tension is equal to the weight of the x x free rope: T ( 0 ) = g λ x T(0)=g\lambda x Solving the the equation we get the tension in the rope as a function of angle and the lenght of the free part x x : T = g λ μ 2 + 1 ( e μ θ ( μ 2 x + 2 μ R + x ) ( μ 2 1 ) R sin θ 2 μ R cos θ ) T=\frac{g\lambda }{{{\mu }^{2}}+1}\left( {{e}^{\mu \theta }}\left( {{\mu }^{2}}x+2\mu R+x \right)-\left( {{\mu }^{2}}-1 \right)R\sin \theta -2\mu R\cos \theta \right) Now we can write the tension at the angle π \pi which is equal to the weight of the free part of length y y . T ( π , x ) = λ g μ 2 + 1 [ e π μ ( x μ 2 + 2 R μ + x ) + 2 R μ ] T(\pi ,x)=\frac{\lambda g}{{{\mu }^{2}}+1}\left[ {{e}^{\pi \mu }}\left( x{{\mu }^{2}}+2R\mu +x \right)+2R\mu \right] We don't forget that the total lenght of the rope is L L . We can write 2 conditions: { λ g μ 2 + 1 [ e π μ ( x μ 2 + 2 R μ + x ) + 2 R μ ] = g λ y x + y + π R = L \left\{ \begin{matrix} \frac{\lambda g}{{{\mu }^{2}}+1}\left[ {{e}^{\pi \mu }}\left( x{{\mu }^{2}}+2R\mu +x \right)+2R\mu \right]=g\lambda y \\ x+y+\pi R=L \\ \end{matrix} \right. This is a linear system of 2 equations with 2 unknowns. Solving it we finally get: y x = e μ π + μ 2 e μ π μ 2 + 1 2 R μ + 4 R μ e μ π + 2 R μ e 2 μ π π R L μ 2 L + 2 R μ + π R μ 2 + 2 R μ e μ π \frac{y}{x}=\frac{{{e}^{\mu \pi }}+{{\mu }^{2}}{{e}^{\mu \pi }}}{{{\mu }^{2}}+1}-\frac{2R\mu +4R\mu {{e}^{\mu \pi }}+2R\mu {{e}^{2\mu \pi }}}{\pi R-L{{\mu }^{2}}-L+2R\mu +\pi R{{\mu }^{2}}+2R\mu {{e}^{\mu \pi }}} After solving it numerically: y x = 17.03175 \frac{y}{x}=17.03175

Nice q bro 😁😀😃

ARYAN GOYAT - 4 years, 7 months ago

Ok, so I just solved it again starting from right to left. I got the same result. It seems that the d T dT term must be on the side with the increase of θ \theta . The tension in the wire T T and θ \theta must increase in the same direction.

Adrian Aruștei - 5 years, 2 months ago

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