E , F , G , and H lie on a line in that order. If E G = 3 5 E F and H F = 5 F G , then what is H G E F ?
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You sure it's a "hard" problem? I've seen many harder ones....
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Yes. It's problem #17 - already in the hard realm. Of course for someone on Brilliant it's a piece of cake, but this problem actually is hard to anyone just sticking with school math (garbage).
it was hard....
No need to do the full solution. Just see, EG/EF=5/3 That means EF=3 now, Go through the given options and see
EF/HG=3/something. So,3/8 fraction is the ans.
HG = HF - FG = 5 FG - FG = 4 FG, FG = EG - EF = (5/3) EF - EF = (2/3) EF or EF = (3/2) FG. Therefore EF/HG = ((3/2) FG)/(4*FG) = 3/8.
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Same method that I used :)
We know that
3 5 E F = E G
5 F G = H F
Turn them into this :
E F = 5 3 E G
F G = 5 1 H F
F G = E G - E F = 3 3 - 5 3 = 1 5 1 5 - 1 5 9 = 1 5 6
H G = H F - F G = 1 5 6 × 5 - 1 5 6 = 1 5 6 (5-1)= 1 5 6 × 4
Substitute:
H G E F = 5 3 × 2 4 1 5 = 8 3
EG/EF=5/3 >>>(1)
EG=EF+FG >>> (2)
From (1) and (2)
FG/EF +1=5/3
FG/EF= 2/3 >>> (5)
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HF/FG=5/1 >>> (3)
HF=HG+FG >>> (4)
From (3) and (4)
HG/FG +1=5
HG/FG=4 >>> (6)
From (5) and (6)
HG/EF=4* (2/3) = 8/3
EF/HG = 3/8
We can simplify the first equation further
EG = (5/3)EF
EF + FG = (5/3)EF (EG = EF +FG from figure)
FG = (5/3)EF - EF
FG = (2/3)EF ----> (1)
Now using the other equation
HF = 5FG
HG + GF = 5FG (HF = HG +GF from figure)
HG = 5FG - FG
HG = 4FG
from equation (1)
HG = 4(2/3)EF
HG = (8/3)EF
==> EF/HG = 3/8
From EG=5EF/3 we know that FG= 2EF/3.
We are given that HF=5FG therefore HG=4FG (looking at diagram).
Combining the above two (as both are in terms of FG), we get HG=8EF/3 allowing us to write EF/HG=3/8.
GH=FH-FG=5FG-FG=4FG EF=5/3EF-FG =>EF=3/2FG EF/HG=3/8
EG=EF+FG;THEN FG=2/3FG; SIMILARLY, HF=5FG WHERE HF=FG+GH;THEN HF=5FG THAT IMPLIES FG+GH=5*2/3EF WHERE FG=2/3EF; THEN GH=8/3EF THAT IMPLIES EF/GH=3/8.
EG = 5/3 EF. EG is nothing but EF + FG. SO EF + FG = 5/3 EF; FG = 2/3 EF. 3FG = 2EF ; HF = 5FG. But HF is nothing but FG + GH. So FG + GH = 5FG. GH = 4FG. FG = GH/4. Therefore 3FG = 3GH/4. We had got earlier 3FG = 2EF. Replacing FG with GH we get - 3GH/4 = 2EF. Therefore EF/GH = 3/4*2 = 3/8. Thus EF/HG = 3/8
EF = 3/2 FG and HG = 4 FG, the ratio EF / HG = 3 / 8
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Because the question doesn't give you a figure, you should draw one. Then plug in some values.
<------| E |-------3-------| F |----2----| G |----------------8----------------| H |----->
If E G = 3 5 E F , then you can make E F = 3 and E G = 5 . That means F G must be 2. If H F = 5 F G , then H F = 5 ( 2 ) = 1 0 . If H F =10 and F G = 2 , then H G =8.
So H G E F = 8 3 .
Solution credit: The Princeton Review .