Second isomorphism theorem

Algebra Level 1

Let S 3 S_3 be the symmetric group on three letters. Let H H be the subgroup generated by the transposition ( 12 ) , (12), and let N N be the subgroup generated by the transposition ( 13 ) . (13).

Then the second isomorphism theorem gives an isomorphism H N / N H / ( H N ) , HN/N \simeq H/(H \cap N), where H N = { h n : h H , n N } . HN = \{ hn : h \in H, n \in N\}.

Now H N = { 1 } , H \cap N = \{1\}, so the right side has order 2. 2. So the left side has order 2. 2. Now N = 2 |N|=2 and H N / N = 2 , |HN/N|=2, so H N = 4. |HN|=4. But Lagrange's theorem says that H N |HN| must divide S 3 , |S_3|, which is 6. 6.

What has gone wrong with this argument?

I. As defined above, H N HN is not a subgroup of S 3 , S_3, so Lagrange's theorem does not apply.
II. The order of a quotient G / K G/K of finite groups is not always equal to G / K . |G|/|K|.
III. N N is not normal , so the second isomorphism theorem does not apply.

I and II II and III I, II, III I and III

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2 solutions

Patrick Corn
Aug 2, 2016

The set { h n : h H , n N } \{hn : h \in H, n \in N\} is only guaranteed to be a subgroup if H H or N N is normal. (Indeed, in this example, this set has four elements, so it is impossible for it to be a subgroup of S 3 . S_3. ) So statement I is true.

Statement II is false: it is always true that if G G is a finite group and K K is a normal subgroup, then G / K = G / K . |G/K| = |G|/|K|.

Statement III is correct: the Second Isomorphism Theorem only applies if N N is normal.

So the answer is I and III.

Shawn Ligocki
Sep 17, 2020

III. N N is not normal. We can see this by considering g = ( 12 ) g = (12) , then g N = { ( 12 ) , ( 12 ) ( 13 ) } = { ( 12 ) , ( 123 ) } gN = \{(12), (12)(13)\} = \{(12), (123)\} , but H g = { ( 12 ) , ( 13 ) ( 12 ) } = { ( 12 ) , ( 132 ) } Hg = \{(12), (13)(12)\} = \{(12), (132)\} . ( 123 ) ( 132 ) (123) \ne (132) thus N N does not match the definition of a Normal Subgroup .

I. H N HN is not a subgroup of S 3 S_3 . H N = { ( ) , ( 12 ) , ( 13 ) , ( 12 ) ( 13 ) } = { ( ) , ( 12 ) , ( 13 ) , ( 123 ) } HN = \{(), (12), (13), (12)(13)\} = \{(), (12), (13), (123)\} but ( 123 ) 1 = ( 132 ) H N (123)^{-1} = (132) \notin HN therefore H N HN is not a group at all.

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