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Algebra Level 4

Δ = m y + n z m q + n r m b + n c k z m x k r m p k c m a n x + k y n p + k q n a + k b = ? \large \Delta = \left | \begin{array}{ccc} my + nz & mq + nr & mb + nc\\ kz - mx & kr - mp & kc - ma \\ nx + ky & np + kq & na + kb \\ \end{array} \right | = \ ?

Assume that f f is a non-constant function in each of the variables.

Bonus : How can we get those addition terms in determinant.

1 1 9 9 1 -1 f ( x , y , z , k , m , n ) f(x,y,z,k,m,n) f ( k , m , n ) f(k,m,n) f ( x , y , z ) f(x,y,z) 0 0 None of these

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2 solutions

Akhil Bansal
Jan 9, 2016

Δ = x y z p q r a b c × 0 m n m 0 k n k 0 = 0 \large \Delta = \left | \begin{array}{ccc} x & y & z \\ p & q & r \\ a & b & c \\ \end{array} \right | \times \left | \begin{array}{ccc} 0 & m & n \\ -m & 0 & k \\ -n & k & 0 \\ \end{array} \right | = 0

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Can you explain what you are doing here? I believe there are several typos, which make your solution harder to understand.

Just a small addition required that the determinant of a skew symmetric matrix is zero.

Tanishq Varshney - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Nope, not always true. We need the condition that n n is odd.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Oh yes , I forgot to mention that too.

Tanishq Varshney - 5 years, 5 months ago

Why can't we define f ( x , y , z ) = 0 f(x,y,z) = 0 the constant function?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 5 months ago

First, I have splitted the given matrix in product of two matrices and determinant of second matrix is zero. Hence, answer is zero.

Akhil Bansal - 5 years, 5 months ago

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The various issues that I see are:

  1. Multiplying your matrices out, the first row is m y n z , m x + k z , n x + k y -my - nz, mx + kz, nx + ky . This does not resemble your first row in any way.

  2. Your second matrix is not a skew symmetric matrix.

  3. You should explain that "Since we have a skew symmetric matrix of odd order, it's determinant is 0".

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 5 months ago
Ryan Lahfa
Dec 20, 2017

Relevant wiki: Determinants

Intuition : we can notice much symmetry if we multiply the third line by m m and the first line by k k and the second line by n n , we can then proceed to sum the second line with the third line to get two same lines, thus, giving us the cancellation of the determinant.

Key points of the proof :

We will suppose all variables are in some K \mathbb{K} domain which is a field where determinants exist.

  • (1) we can multiply each line by a scalar X K X \in \mathbb{K} which will multiply the value of the determinant by X K X \in \mathbb{K} ;
  • (2) summing lines in a determinant will not change the value of the determinant ;
  • (3) if two lines or two columns are equal in a determinant, then the determinant is zero ;
  • (4) K \mathbb{K} is an integral domain, i.e. ( a , b ) K , a b = 0 a = 0 or b = 0 \forall (a, b) \in \mathbb{K}, ab = 0 \implies a = 0 \text{ or } b = 0 .

An approach :

By (1) :

( m k n ) Δ = m k y + n k z m k q + n k r m k b + k n c n k z m n x n k r m n p n k c m n a m n x + m k y m n p + m k q m n a + m k b (notice how we get chunks of terms everywhere) = m k y + n k z m k q + n k r m k b + k n c n k z m n x n k r m n p n k c m n a m k y + n k z m k q + n k r m k b + n k c (we sum line 2 and line 3 and replace it by line 3 by property (2)) = 0 (by property (3)) \begin{aligned} (mkn)\Delta & = \begin{vmatrix} mky + nkz & mkq + nkr & mkb + knc \\ nkz - mnx & nkr - mnp & nkc - mna \\ mnx + mky & mnp + mkq & mna + mkb \end{vmatrix} \text{ (notice how we get chunks of terms everywhere)} \\ & = \begin{vmatrix} mky + nkz & mkq + nkr & mkb + knc \\ nkz - mnx & nkr - mnp & nkc - mna \\ mky + nkz & mkq + nkr & mkb + nkc \end{vmatrix} \text{ (we sum line 2 and line 3 and replace it by line 3 by property (2))} \\ & = 0 \text{ (by property (3))} \end{aligned}

Then, by (4) , either m = 0 m = 0 , either k = 0 k = 0 , either n = 0 n = 0 , either Δ = 0 \Delta = 0 .

Here we do some casework :

  • If m , n , k m, n, k are not zero, then Δ = 0 \Delta = 0 .

  • If m = 0 m = 0 , then Δ = n z n r n c k z k r k c n x + k y n p + k q n a + k b = 0 \Delta = \begin{vmatrix} nz & nr & nc \\ kz & kr & kc \\ nx + ky & np + kq & na + kb \end{vmatrix} = 0 because of (3) and (1), we can factor out k k and n n and first line and second line are the same.

  • If k = 0 k = 0 , then Δ = m y + n z m q + n r m b + n c m x m p m a n x n p n a = 0 \Delta = \begin{vmatrix} my + nz & mq + nr & mb + nc \\ -mx & -mp & -ma \\ nx & np & na \end{vmatrix} = 0 , same for m = 0 m = 0 by factoring m -m and n n .

  • Easily, we deduce the same for n = 0 n = 0 for the same reasons. Left as an exercise to the reader.

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