Sequential divisors?

Fill in the blank:

N N has precisely 10 positive divisors.
2 N 2N has precisely 15 positive divisors.
3 N 3N has precisely 20 positive divisors.
4 N 4N has precisely ________ \text{\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_} positive divisors.

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Andy Hayes
Jun 14, 2017

Recall how to count the number of divisors . Given that N N has 10 positive divisors, there are two possibilities for its prime factorization:

Case 1: N = p 1 × q 4 Case 2: N = p 9 \begin{array}{rl} \textbf{Case 1:} & N=p^1 \times q^4 \\ \textbf{Case 2:} & N=p^9 \end{array}

where p p and q q are primes.

Now examine these cases taking into account the second statement.

Case 1 :

Suppose that p 2 p \ne 2 and q 2. q \ne 2. Then,

2 N = 2 1 × p 1 × q 4 . 2N=2^1 \times p^1 \times q^4.

This gives 20 divisors, so this cannot be true. Now suppose that q = 2. q = 2. Then,

2 N = p 1 × 2 5 . 2N=p^1 \times 2^5.

This gives 12 divisors, so this also cannot be true. Now suppose that p = 2. p=2. Then,

2 N = 2 2 × q 4 . 2N=2^2 \times q^4.

This gives 15 divisors. Then if case 1 is true, it must be the case that p = 2. p=2.

Case 2 :

Suppose that p 2. p \ne 2. Then,

2 N = 2 1 × p 9 . 2N=2^1 \times p^9.

This gives 20 positive divisors, so this cannot be true. Now suppose that p = 2. p=2. Then,

2 N = 2 10 . 2N=2^{10}.

This gives 11 positive divisors, so this also cannot be true. This means that case 2 is impossible. Now we know that case 1 must be true, and it must be the case that p = 2 : p=2:

N = 2 1 × q 4 N= 2^1 \times q^4

It is not necessary to examine the third statement. If you do examine it, you will note that there are no conflicts. Regardless of the value of q , q,

4 N = 2 3 × q 4 . 4N=2^3 \times q^4.

This gives 20 \boxed{20} positive divisors.

The third statement does add a little bit of information about N. It tells us that q =/= 3, which would be possible based on just the first two statements. But as you say, that doesn't affect the number of divisors of 4N.

Matthew Feig - 3 years, 11 months ago

Good question, great solution.

William Nathanael Supriadi - 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike Prosz
Jun 19, 2017

It's simple number theory that whenever you double a positive value, that amount of positive divisors it has increases by a constant rate.

N N has precisely 10 positive divisors.

2 N 2N has precisely 10 + 5 positive divisors.

4 N 4N has precisely 15 + 5 positive divisors.

Good observation! Can you explain why it is true?

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 11 months ago

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I didn't know there can be an explaination for an observation

Utkarsh Kulshrestha - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Hint: Write out the number of divisors.

As mentioned by Richard, this statement is true for "successively multiplied by any prime"

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 11 months ago

The same kind of statement also holds when N is successively multiplied by powers of any prime, that the number of divisors increased at a constant rate.

Richard Desper - 3 years, 11 months ago

For completeness, you still need to show that there exists an integer that satisfy all these conditions...

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 11 months ago

You don't need to list out the divisors: it suffices that the 15 divisors of of 2N will be divisors of 4N; plus the 5 divisors of 2N but not N will be doubled, and will be new divisors of 4N that weren't divisors of 2N.

Nor do you have to show that such an integer exists: The problem states that N exists, therefore 4N exists.

Jerry Barrington - 3 years, 9 months ago

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If I replace the number 20 (in the problem statement) with another number, say 9999, does that mean that N still exists?

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 9 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Jun 18, 2017

Fact : With the prime factor decomposition N = p 1 e 1 p 2 e 2 N = p_1^{e_1}\cdot p_2^{e_2} \cdots , the number of divisors is δ ( N ) = ( e 1 + 1 ) ( e 2 + 1 ) ( ) . \delta(N) = (e_1 + 1)(e_2 + 1)(\cdots).


Now δ ( N ) = 10 \delta(N) = 10 factors as either ( 9 + 1 ) (9+1) or ( 4 + 1 ) ( 1 + 1 ) (4+1)(1+1) , producing two cases.

Case 1 : N = p 9 N = p^9 . If q p q \not = p is a prime number, then δ ( p N ) = δ ( p 10 ) = ( 10 + 1 ) = 11 ; δ ( q N ) = δ ( p 9 q 1 ) = ( 9 + 1 ) ( 1 + 1 ) = 20. \delta(pN) = \delta(p^{10}) = (10 + 1) = 11;\ \ \ \ \delta(qN) = \delta(p^9\cdot q^1) = (9 + 1)(1 + 1) = 20. Thus δ ( 3 N ) = 20 \delta(3N) = 20 would be possible if p = 3 , N = 3 9 p = 3, N = 3^9 ; however, then δ ( 2 N ) = 11 \delta(2N) = 11 not 15. This rules out case 1.

Case 2 : N = p 1 4 p 2 N = p_1^4\cdot p_2 . If q p 1 , p 2 q \not= p_1, p_2 is prime, then δ ( p 1 N ) = δ ( p 1 5 p 2 ) = ( 5 + 1 ) ( 1 + 1 ) = 12 ; δ ( p 2 N ) = δ ( p 1 4 p 2 2 ) = ( 4 + 1 ) ( 2 + 1 ) = 15 ; δ ( q N ) = δ ( p 1 4 p 2 q ) = ( 4 + 1 ) ( 1 + 1 ) ( 1 + 1 ) = 20. \delta(p_1N) = \delta(p_1^5p_2) = (5 + 1)(1 + 1) = 12; \\ \delta(p_2N) = \delta(p_1^4p_2^2) = (4 + 1)(2 + 1) = 15; \\ \delta(qN) = \delta(p_1^4p_2q) = (4+1)(1+1)(1+1) = 20. We see that δ ( 2 N ) = 15 \delta(2N) = 15 requires p 2 = 2 p_2 = 2 , and δ ( 3 N ) = 20 \delta(3N) = 20 it true if moreover p 1 3 p_1 \not = 3 . But then δ ( 4 N ) = δ ( p 2 2 N ) = δ ( p 1 4 p 2 3 ) = ( 4 + 1 ) ( 3 + 1 ) = 20 . \delta(4N) = \delta(p_2^2N) = \delta(p_1^4p_2^3) = (4+1)(3+1) = \boxed{20}.


The smallest value of N N for which these statements are true is N = 5 4 2 = 1250. N = 5^4\cdot 2 = 1250. The divisors are:

  • of N = 1250 N = 1250 : 1,2,5,10,25,50,125,250,625,1250.

  • of 2 N = 2500 2N = 2500 : 1,2,4,5,10,20,25,50,100,125,250,500,625,1250,2500.

  • of 3 N = 3750 3N = 3750 : 1,2,3,5,6,10,15,25,30,50,75,125,150,250,375,625,750,1250,1875,3750.

  • of 4 N = 5000 4N =5000 : 1,2,4,5,8,10,20,25,40,50,100,125,200,250,500,625,1000,1250,2500,5000.

Shourya Pandey
Jun 16, 2017

Let τ ( m ) \tau(m) denote the number of positive divisors of a natural number m m . Suppose a a is the highest power of 2 2 dividing N N . Then a + 1 a+1 is the highest power of 2 2 dividing 2 N 2N , so that

15 10 = τ ( 2 N ) τ ( N ) = ( a + 1 ) + 1 a + 1 \frac{15}{10} = \frac{\tau(2N)}{\tau(N)} = \frac{(a+1)+1}{a+1} , which gives a = 1. So now, a + 2 = 3 a+2 = 3 is the highest power of 2 2 dividing 4 N 4N , so 4 N 4N has 3 + 1 1 + 1 τ ( N ) = 2 10 = 20 \frac{3+1}{1+1} \cdot \tau(N) = 2 \cdot 10 = \boxed{20} .

For completeness, we see that the number N = 1250 = 2 5 4 N= 1250= 2 \cdot 5^4 satisfies all conditions of the problem.

While you have found the fastest way to get the answer, your solution suggests that we don't have to know that sigma(0) (3N) =20 in the first place. But is that true? In other words, if I replace the number 20 in the question with some other positive integer (say, 100000), would the answer still be equal to 20?

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 11 months ago

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The solution is valid only as long as there exists at least one natural number that satisfies the given conditions; If k k is the highest power of 3 3 in N N , then

τ ( 3 N ) = k + 2 k + 1 10 = 10 + 10 k + 1 \tau(3N) = \frac{k+2}{k+1}10 = 10+ \frac{10}{k+1} . So k = 0 , 1 , 4 , 9 k=0,1,4,9 (as a fun note, i never noticed that the factors of 10 are all one more than a perfect square!). So \tau(3N) can take the values 20 , 15 , 12 , 11 20,15,12,11 only.

Shourya Pandey - 3 years, 11 months ago

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For completeness, you should show that there exists such an integer N that satisfy all these conditions.

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 11 months ago

I understood upto the point that 2 3 2^3 is the highest power of 2 which divides 4 N 4N . But I do not understand your method for calculating τ ( 4 N ) \tau(4N) . Specifically this line

so 4 N 4N has 3 + 1 1 + 1 τ ( N ) = 2 10 = 20 \frac{3+1}{1+1} \cdot \tau(N) = 2 \cdot 10 = \boxed{20} .

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 11 months ago

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The number of divisors of a number N = 2 a 1 p 2 a 2 . . . p n a n N= 2^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}...p_n^{a_n} whose prime factors have powers a 1 , a 2 , . . . , a k ) a_1,a_2,...,a_k) is ( a 1 + 1 ) ( a 2 + 1 ) . . . . ( a n + 1 ) (a_1+1)(a_2+1)....(a_n+1) .

Because N N and 4 N 4N differ only in the power of 2 2 contained in them (which are respectively 1 1 and 3 3 ), the ratio of the number of divisors of 4 N 4N and N N is simply ( 3 + 1 ) ( 1 + 1 ) = 2 \frac{(3+1)}{(1+1)} = 2 , because a 2 + 1 , a 3 + 1 , . . . . . a_2+1, a_3+1,..... will be the same for both N N and 4 N 4N

Shourya Pandey - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Now I see it, thanks!

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 11 months ago
Colin Gu
Jun 23, 2017

The number N can be written as a product of prime numbers:N=(2^x)(3^y)(5^z)...etc. Assume the possibility to choose is D=xyz...etc. Actually D is the number of the divisors.

In this problem, the D of N,2N,3N are given, so in the 2N case, x becomes (x+1), in the 3N case, y becomes (y+1), in the 4N case, what's x now? (x+2),brilliant!

The all things after(and including) "z" is a constant number in this problem, so we can assume it's "P", since we don't know it for the present.

D(N)=xyP=10

D(2N)=(x+1)yP=15

D(3N)=x(y+1)P=20

D(4N)=(x+2)yP=?

Believe you can solve it now :D

Yup, it's good that you can convert the given statements into a system of equations in terms of x,y and P. Well done!

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 11 months ago
Áron Bán-Szabó
Jun 21, 2017

N = 2 x 3 y k , N=2^x*3^y*k, where k k is not divisible by 2 2 or by 3 3 . Suppose that k k has z z number of divisors. Then:

( x + 1 ) ( y + 1 ) z = ( x y + x + y + 1 ) z = 10 = A (x+1)(y+1)z=(xy+x+y+1)z=10=A

( x + 2 ) ( y + 1 ) z = ( x y + x + 2 y + 2 ) z = 15 = B (x+2)(y+1)z=(xy+x+2y+2)z=15=B

( x + 1 ) ( y + 2 ) z = ( x y + 2 x + y + 2 ) z = 20 = C (x+1)(y+2)z=(xy+2x+y+2)z=20=C

From that

x y + x + y + 1 = 10 z = 2 3 B z = 2 3 ( x y + x + 2 y + 2 ) xy+x+y+1=\frac{10}{z}=\frac{2}{3}*\frac{B}{z}=\frac{2}{3}*(xy+x+2y+2)

Since 3 A = 2 B 3A=2B ,

3 x y + 3 x + 3 y + 3 = 2 x y + 2 x + 4 y + 4 3xy+3x+3y+3=2xy+2x+4y+4

x y + x y 1 = 0 = ( x 1 ) ( y + 1 ) xy+x-y-1=0=(x-1)(y+1)

y y can't be 1 -1 , so x = 1 x=1 .

Similarly 2 A = C 2A=C ,

2 x y + 2 x + 2 y + 2 = x y + 2 x + y + 2 2xy+2x+2y+2=xy+2x+y+2

x y + y = 0 = y ( x + 1 ) xy+y=0=y(x+1)

x = 1 x=1 , so y y has to be 0 0 .

From these z = 5 z=5 .

Then 4 N 4N has

( x + 3 ) ( y + 1 ) z = 4 1 5 = 20 (x+3)(y+1)z=4*1*5=\boxed{20}

divisors.

Yup, this is how I've done it. It's important to identify whether N is divisible by 2 and/or 3 first.

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 11 months ago
Chuen-Wei Chen
Jun 12, 2017

let N = (p1^n1) (p2^n2) (p3^n3) ... (pi^ni); p are prime numbers, p1<p2<p3<...<pi, n are positive integrals

The number of divisors of N: (n1+1)(n2+1)...(ni+1) = 10

Since n >0, n+1>1, (n1+1)(n2+1)...(ni+1) = 2x5 or 5x2 or 10 => n1=1, n2=4 or n1=4, n2=1 or n1=9

N = p1 (p2^4) or (p1^4) p2 or p1^9

2N = 2 p1 (p2^4) or 2 (p1^4) p2 or 2*(p1^9)

Since 2 is a prime number, 2 = p1 or 2 = p2 or 2=/= p1 or p2

if 2 = p1: 2N = (2^2) (p2^4) or (2^5) p2 or 2^10, Number of divisors: 3x5=15 or 6x2=12 or 11=> N=2*p2^4

if 2 = p2: N= p1 (2^4) or (p1^4) 2 or (p1^9)*2, since p1<p2, 2 is the smallest prime, it is not possible.

if 2 =/= p1 or p2, N = 2 p1 (p2^4) or 2 (p1^4) p2 or 2*(p1^9) => number of divisors: 2x2x5 or 2x5x2 or 2x10, =/= 15

THEREFORE, N = 2*(p2^4)

3N = 2 * 3 * (p2^4)

since 3 is also a prime number, 3 = p2 or 3 =/= p2

if 3 =p2, N = 2 * 3^4, 3N = 2 * 3^5, number of divisors: 2x6=12 =/= 20

so 3 =/= p2, N=2 * (p2^4), 3N=2 * 3 * (p2^4), number of divisor: 2x2x5 = 20

THEREFORE, N = 2 * (p2^4), p2 =/= 3

4N = 4 * 2 * (p2^4) = (2^3) * (p2^4), number of divisors: 4x5 = 20

Good exposition.

Bonus question: Is there a unique solution to the following question?

Fill in the blank:
N N has precisely 10 positive divisors.
2 N 2N has precisely 15 positive divisors.
3 N 3N has precisely ________ \text{\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_} positive divisors.
4 N 4N has precisely 20 positive divisors.



Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 11 months ago
Akshay Gupta
Jun 25, 2017

@Andy Hayes gave a very good general term solution but I did it with making cases like this:

Case 1:

Let Different Divisors of N be : 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 then Divisors of 2N : 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,14,16,18,20 ( = 15 divisors) Divisors of 4N = 2(2N) : 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,14,16,18,20,24,28,32,36,40 ( = 20 divisors)

Case 2:

As you can see by question that all divisors cannot be ODD because if this happened, 2N will give 20 divisors and 4N will give 40 divisors

Case 3:

this is what i used - Trying to find Smallest Possible Value of N by looking at question and case 1 we can simply tell that upto 10 divisors none can be divisible by 3 or it won't make 3N with 20 divisors So here is what i came off with N = 1 2 4 5 7 8 10 11 13*14 So 2N = 1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11,13,14,16,20,22,26,28 ( =15 divisors) 3N = 1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11,13,14,3,6,12,15,21,24,30,33,39,42 ( = 20 divisors) 4N = 2(2N) = 1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11,13,14,16,20,22,26,28,32,40,44,52,56 ( = 20 divisors)

Please respond if i had done anything wrong :)

Pi Han Goh
Jun 17, 2017

I will first try to determine whether N N is divisible by 2 and/or 3.

Let N = 2 a 3 b i = 3 n p i r i \displaystyle N = 2^a \cdot 3^b \cdot \prod_{i=3}^n p_i ^{r_i} , where a a and b b are non-negative integers to be determined, p 3 , p 4 , , p n p_3, p_4, \ldots, p_n are distinct prime numbers larger than 3, and r 3 , r 4 , , r n r_3, r_4,\ldots , r_n are positive integers.

We define σ 0 ( X ) \sigma_0 (X) as the total number of positive divisors of positive integer X X . Then,

\begin{aligned} 10 &=& \sigma_0(N) = (a + 1)(b+ 1) \prod_{i=3}^n (r_i + 1) \qquad\qquad\qquad \tag 1 \\ 15 &=& \sigma_0(2N) = (a + 2)(b+ 1) \prod_{i=3}^n (r_i + 1) \qquad\qquad\qquad \tag 2 \\ 20 &=& \sigma_0(3N) = (a + 1)(b+ 2) \prod_{i=3}^n (r_i + 1) \qquad\qquad\qquad \tag 3 \\ \end{aligned}

( 2 ) ÷ ( 1 ) (2) \div (1) : 15 10 = a + 2 a + 1 a = 1 \dfrac{15}{10} = \dfrac{a+2}{a+1} \quad\Leftrightarrow\quad a = 1 .

( 3 ) ÷ ( 1 ) (3) \div (1) : 20 10 = b + 2 b + 1 b = 0 \dfrac{20}{10} = \dfrac{b+2}{b+1} \quad\Leftrightarrow\quad b = 0 .

From ( 1 ) (1) : 10 = ( 1 + 1 ) ( 0 + 1 ) i = 3 n ( r i + 1 ) i = 3 n ( r i + 1 ) = 5 n = 3. \displaystyle 10 = (1 + 1)(0 + 1) \prod_{i=3}^n (r_i + 1)\quad\Leftrightarrow\quad \prod_{i=3}^n (r_i + 1) = 5 \quad\Leftrightarrow\quad n = 3 . Hence, N N can be expressed as 2 p 4 2p^4 , where p p is a prime larger than 3.

Our answer is σ 0 ( 4 N ) = σ ( 4 2 p 4 ) = σ ( 2 3 p 4 ) = ( 3 + 1 ) ( 4 + 1 ) = 20 \sigma_0(4N) = \sigma(4\cdot 2p^4) = \sigma(2^3 \cdot p^4) = (3+1)(4+1) = \boxed{20} .

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