Shop Keeper's Dilemma

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A Shop Keeper wants to buy "weighing balances" (Weights) for his weighing scale, From his past experience he knows that he requires to measure items up to 85Kgs (in multiples of 1Kg). Find Minimum numbers of weighing balances required with which he can measure all possible weight up to 85kgs?


The answer is 5.

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3 solutions

Fred Shuman
Feb 3, 2014

Clearly, you need a 1kg weight.

Note: 1 = ½(3¹-1).

Using that, you can use a 3kg wt with the 1kg added, or subtracted (by placing it on the opposing pan), or not at all, to weigh 2, 3, or 4 kg objects.

Note: 3 + 1 = 4 = ½(3²-1).

Using those, in combination with a 9kg wt, each added, subtracted), or not at all, to weigh anything from 5 to

9 + 3 + 1 = 13 = ½(3³-1).

Etc. With 4 wts of 1, 3, 9, and 27, you can weigh any integer from 1 to

27 + 9 + 3 + 1 = 40 = ½(3⁴-1).

And with 5 wts of 1, 3, 9, 27, and 81, you can weigh any integer from 1 to

81 + 27 + 9 + 3 + 1 = 121 = ½(3⁵-1).

So you can weigh up to 121 kg samples with those 5 wts.

Note: This hints at a way to represent numbers in ternary without using algebraic signs, by choosing digits that mean 1, 0, and -1.

Fred Shuman - 7 years, 4 months ago
Vikram Pandya
Jan 18, 2014

the weights needed then are 1,3,9,27 & 81 kg and you can measure upto 121 kg

it has to work because the sum of this GP to n terms is [ 1 (3^n - 1)] / (3 -1) = (3^n - 1) /2 and the (n+1)th term is 1 3^n so the difference between the two is (3^n +1) / 2 which is greater by 1 than (3^n -1) / 2

thus if it works for n it will work for n+1 since it works for n = 1, it will work for succeeding values

the last weight, of course, needn't actually be 81 kg that can be even 45kg as we need to weigh only upto 85 kg

Yeah that's right

Lost Glory - 7 years, 4 months ago
Tunk-Fey Ariawan
Mar 11, 2014

This is a very famous problem and the original problem stems from the French mathematician Claude Gaspard Bachet de Méziriac (1581-1638), who solved it in his famous book Problemes plaisants et dilectables qui se font par les nombres , published in 1624. The difference is the original problem uses the limit weight of 40 40 .

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