For each real number r , let X r denote the sum of all non-real roots of the equation 1 2 8 y 4 − 1 2 8 y 3 + 6 4 y 2 − 1 6 y + r = 0 . Let S be the sum of all possible distinct values of X r . Given that S can be written as b a , where a and b are coprime positive integers, what is the value of a + b ?
This problem is posed by Shourya P.
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I do not understand the phrase "Because of the symmetry of f ( y ) ". What kind of symmetry is this? Is it an even function? An odd function? Symmetric about the origin? These are 3 immediate symmetries that I would think of, and none of them seem to satisfy the function. You should ensure that your steps are clearly justified.
In this question, the symmetry of the polynomial is important in understanding it. This is reflected in various approaches which can be taken to solve it, like using a suitable substitution which exploits the symmetry to convert the quartic into a quadratic.
The relevant symmetry is best expressed by the formula f ( 1 / 2 − x ) = f ( x ) . Anything short of that would not be enough to conclude that the roots move symmetrically about 1 / 4 .
Sorry, because my English is not good, sometimes I do not know how to express some mathematical phrases. In this comment, I am going to explain what I called "the symmetry of f(y)".
Because d y d f = 0 when y = 4 1 , we consider
f ( y + 4 1 ) = 1 2 8 ( y + 4 1 ) 4 − 1 2 8 ( y + 4 1 ) 3 + 6 4 ( y + 4 1 ) 2 − 1 6 ( y + 4 1 )
= 1 2 8 y 4 + 1 6 y 2 − 2 3
f ( y + 4 1 ) is an even function so graph of function y = 4 1 if the symmetry axis of graph of function f(y). Therefore, the sum of two real roots (when r ≤ 2 3 ) is always 2 ∗ 4 1 = 2 1 .
A slight variation on your solution: upon discovering that d f / d y = 0 only when y = 1 / 4 , we might decide to rewrite f ( y ) in terms of ( y − 1 / 4 ) :
f ( y ) = 8 ( y − 4 1 ) 4 + ( y − 4 1 ) 2 − 3 2 3
which tells us that X r = 4 1 N r , where N r is the number of non-real solutions of f ( y ) + r = 0 . And since, as you pointed out, the values taken by N r are 2 and 4 , it immediately follows that S = 4 1 ( 2 + 4 ) = 2 3
A slight variation on your solution: upon discovering that d f / d y = 0 only when y = 1 / 4 , we might decide to rewrite f ( y ) in terms of ( y − 1 / 4 ) :
f ( y ) = 8 ( y − 4 1 ) 4 + ( y − 4 1 ) 2 − 3 2 3
which tells us that X r = 4 1 N r , where N r is the number of non-real solutions of f ( y ) + r = 0 . And since, as you pointed out, the values taken by N r are 2 and 4 , it immediately follows that S = 4 1 ( 2 + 4 ) = 2 3
The polynomial is symmetric about the axis x = 4 1 , because if $$f(y) = 128y^4−128y^3+64y^2−16y+r$$ then $$f\left(\frac{1}{4} + a\right) = f\left(\frac{1}{4} - a\right)$$
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Let f r ( y ) = 1 2 8 y 4 − 1 2 8 y 3 + 6 4 y 2 − 1 6 y + r . We shall write f r ( y ) in the form of p ( y 2 + q y + r ) 2 + s y + t . It turns out that f r ( y ) = 1 2 8 ( y 2 − 2 1 y + 8 1 ) 2 + r − 2 . Now we can complete the square for the quadratic expression inside the brackets to get f r ( y ) = 1 2 8 [ ( y − 4 1 ) 2 + 1 6 1 ] 2 + r − 2 . Now we try to solve for the roots of f r ( y ) = 0 . The roots of f r ( y ) = 0 satisfy [ ( y − 4 1 ) 2 + 1 6 1 ] 2 = 1 2 8 2 − r . Clearly if r > 2 , there are no real roots, so there are 4 non-real roots (counting multiplicity). Since non-real roots of polynomials with real coefficients come in conjugates, we either have all four roots distinct, or we have a pair of conjugate roots (both with multiplicity 2 ). When all four roots are distinct, Vieta's formulae give the sum of the roots as − 1 2 8 − 1 2 8 = 1 . Otherwise, we have counted each root twice, so the sum is half of the previous case, which is 2 1 . Now consider r ≤ 2 . Then we must have ( y − 4 1 ) 2 = − 1 2 8 2 − r − 1 6 1 or ( y − 4 1 ) 2 = 1 2 8 2 − r − 1 6 1 . The first equation has clearly no real solutions and gives rise to 2 non-real conjugate roots for y . The second equation gives no real solution when 1 2 8 2 − r < 1 6 1 , so this means there will be a total of four non-real roots (counting multiplicity) and we have the same scenario as when r > 2 . But when 1 2 8 2 − r ≥ 1 6 1 , then the roots will be real, so the only non-real roots would come from the first equation ( y − 4 1 ) 2 = − 1 2 8 2 − r − 1 6 1 , and since the coefficients of y 2 and y are 1 and − 2 1 respectively, we know that the sum of the two non-real conjugate roots (which have to be distinct) is 2 1 by Vieta's formulae.
It is easy to find r such that X r = 2 1 and X r = 1 respectively. For instance, if we set r = 0 , we have 1 2 8 2 − r ≥ 1 6 1 , so by the above reasoning, we must have X 0 = 2 1 . On the other hand, if we set r = 1 4 6 , then 1 2 8 2 − r = − 8 9 = ± 4 3 2 i , so we have either ( y − 4 1 ) 2 = ± 4 3 2 i − 1 6 1 . Observe that since ( 2 2 ± 4 3 i ) 2 = ± 4 3 2 i − 1 6 1 , we have y − 4 1 = 2 2 + 4 3 i or y − 4 1 = − ( 2 2 + 4 3 i ) or y − 4 1 = 2 2 − 4 3 i or y − 4 1 = − ( 2 2 − 4 3 i ) . Each of these results in a distinct root, so we know that it is possible to have 4 non-real roots that sum to 1 , i.e. X 1 4 6 = 1 . Therefore, S = 1 + 2 1 = 2 3 , and our answer is 5 .
[Of course, there are easier ways to show that X r = 1 is attainable; the above is just showing one explicit example.]
This is my first time of writing a solution, so forgive me for any mistakes.<P> Denote y=128x^4−128x^3+64x^2−16x+r and observe the function,it is a parabola which is symmetrical to x=1/4 and has a minimum value of y if and only if x=1/4.(It's not hard to calculate this by doing some differentiation but I'll skip here.) First, substitute x=1/4 into y and let y=0.(I'm doing this to find the value of r when the minimum point of y is (1/4,0).) Obviously, r=3/2. For all r which is greater than 3/2, y has no real roots as the curve is above x-axis. According to Vieta's theorem, the sum of all non-real roots of the equation is equal to -(-128)/128=1. Now, we consider the other circumstances when r is smaller than or equal to 3/2. Under this circumstance, y has one real root(when r=3/2) or two real roots which are symmetrical to x=1/4 (when r<3/2). So, we let both real roots be 1/4+d and 1/4-d (d > 0). Then,we divide 128x^4−128x^3+64x^2−16x+r by (x-(1/4+d))(x-(1/4-d)). We will get 128x^2-64x+C where C is a function of r. Clearly there are no real roots for 128x^2-64x+C=0.(Since the equation of y has only two real roots and now we do the division to eliminate the real roots from y.) Therefore, the sum of all non-real roots of the equation 128x^4−128x^3+64x^2−16x+r=0 for all r is smaller than or equal to 3/2 is 64/128=1/2(according to Vieta's theorem again). 1+1/2=3/2. Therefore 3+2=5.
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First, we consider f ( y ) = 1 2 8 y 4 − 1 2 8 y 3 + 6 4 y 2 − 1 6 y , and d y d f = 5 1 2 y 3 − 3 8 4 y 2 + 1 2 8 y − 1 6 .
d y d f = 0 only when y = 4 1 , and at this point, f ( y ) = 2 − 3 . We have two cases:
Case 1: r > 2 3 . In this case, f ( y ) + r > 0 ∀ y , so all roots of f ( y ) + r = 0 are complex and according to vieta's theorem, X r = − 1 2 8 − 1 2 8 = 1 .
Case 2: r ≤ 2 3 . In this case, since d y d f = 0 has only 1 real root, the equation f ( y ) + r = 0 has two real roots (multiple root when r = 2 3 is equivalent).
When r=0, we can easily find two real roots of f ( y ) + r = 0 : y=0 and y = 2 1 .
Because of the symmetry of f(y), when r changes (but still satisfies r ≤ 2 3 ), the sum of these real roots do not change. Therefore, in this case, X r = 1 − ( 0 + 2 1 ) = 2 1 .
Therefore, the sum of all possible distinct values of X r is 1 + 2 1 = 2 3 .
The answer is: 3+2=5.