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Algebra Level 3

( y + 1 ) 1 / 2 ( y 1 ) 1 / 2 = ( 4 y 1 ) 1 / 2 \large (y+1)^{1/2} - (y-1)^{1/2} = (4y-1)^{1/2}

Find the value of y y satisfying the equation above.

5 4 \frac54 2 i 2 3 \frac{2-i\sqrt2}3 2 + i 2 3 \frac{2+i\sqrt2}3 2 ± i 2 3 \frac{2\pm i\sqrt2}3 There is no solution

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3 solutions

Rishabh Jain
Jun 12, 2016

Square both sides :- ( y + 1 ) + ( y 1 ) 2 y 2 1 = 4 y 1 (y+1)+(y-1)-2\sqrt{y^2-1}=4y-1 2 y 2 1 = 2 y 1 \implies -2\sqrt{y^2-1}=2y-1

Squaring again gives:-

4 ( y 2 1 ) = ( 2 y 1 ) 2 4(y^2-1)=(2y-1)^2 4 y 5 = 0 y = 5 4 \implies 4y-5=0\implies y=\dfrac 54

Substituting 5 4 \dfrac 54 in the eqn, we get:-

R H S : ( 9 4 ) 1 / 2 ( 1 4 ) 1 / 2 = 1 RHS:\left(\dfrac 94\right)^{1/2}-\left(\dfrac 14\right)^{1/2}=1 While L H S LHS comes out to be ( 4 ) 1 / 2 = 2 (4)^{1/2}=2 . Hence x = 5 4 x=\dfrac 54 is a extraneous solution obtained due to squaring. Hence No solution \color{#D61F06}{\text{No solution}} .

Sabhrant Sachan
May 21, 2016

We have to solve the equation y + 1 y 1 = 4 y 1 \sqrt{y+1}-\sqrt{y-1}=\sqrt{4y-1} . Squaring Both sides

y + 1 + y 1 2 y 2 1 = 4 y 1 4 ( y 2 1 ) = ( 2 y 1 ) 2 4 y 2 4 = 4 y 2 + 1 4 y y = 5 4 \implies y+1+y-1-2\sqrt{y^2-1}=4y-1 \\ 4(y^2-1)=(2y-1)^2 \\ 4y^2-4=4y^2+1-4y \\ y=\color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{\dfrac54}}

In this case , The option " There is no solution " is correct

Moderator note:

This is incorrect. Once you start squaring both sides of an equation, you run the risk of finding extraneous roots. So you still need to make sure that the final value(s) you have found is indeed correct.

In this case, with y = 5 4 y = \dfrac54 , L H S = y + 1 y 1 = 1.5 0.5 = 1 LHS = \sqrt{y+1} - \sqrt{y-1} = 1.5 - 0.5 = 1 and R H S = 4 y 1 = 2 RHS = \sqrt{4y-1} = 2 . Hence, y = 5 4 y = \dfrac54 cannot be a solution because L H S R H S LHS \ne RHS .

i think you have to specify which option since the mcq can change the answers position, in my case it was the fifth option that was 'there is no solution'

Goh Choon Aik - 5 years ago
J Chaturvedi
Jun 14, 2016

On squaring, we have,
y+1 + y-1 - 2√(y^2 - 1) =(4y -1),
Or, - 2√(y^2-1) = (2y - 1),
Again squaring, we have,
4(y^2 - 1) = 4y^2 - 4y + 1,
4y = 5, or y = 5/4.
This answer 5/4 is actually an answer to only the last equation, 4y = 5, and not an answer to the original equation for the reason that same answer would be found for the following equations also:
1. - √(y+1) + √(y - 1) = √(4y - 1),
2. +√(y+1) + √(y-1) = √(4y-1),
And the same answer would also be found if the sign is changed from (+) to (- )on the RHS for each of these equations.
As such, on squaring, different equations may become identical and may generate answers which may not satisfy the original equations. Unless the answer obtained satisfies a particular equation, it can not be treated as pertaining to that equation. As y=5/4 does not satisfy the original equation in the instant case, the original equation does not have any solution.



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