Sliding Down a Sliding Half-Cylinder

A box of mass M M slides down a smooth ramp of mass 2 M 2M in the shape of a half-circular cylinder (cut along the circle diameter). The ramp itself also slides on the smooth floor.

Initially, the system is at rest and the box is displaced an infinitesimally small distance from the top of the ramp.

When the box hits the floor, how far (in meters, to 3 decimal places) has the ramp slid relative to its initial location?

Details and Assumptions:

  • There is downward gravity g = 10 m/s 2 . g = 10\text{ m/s}^2.
  • The box has negligible size, and is attached to the ramp so that it cannot fly off.
  • The ramp radius is 1 meter.

Inspiration


The answer is 0.333.

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3 solutions

Panshul Rastogi
Oct 6, 2017

Is this not extremely overrated?

In hindsight, yes it is. I should have asked about the time-dynamics rather than the final state.

Steven Chase - 3 years, 8 months ago

Yup. This should be like level 2 or 3.

Pranav Saxena - 3 years, 6 months ago
Mark Hennings
Sep 19, 2017

At the point when the ramp has moved X X to the left, and the radial line from the box to the centre of the ramp makes an angle θ \theta with the vertical, the box will have moved a distance X + sin θ -X + \sin\theta to the right. Thus the horizontal coordinate of the centre of mass of the system (relative to the initial position of the box) will be 1 3 M [ 2 M X + M ( X + sin θ ) ] = X + 1 3 sin θ \tfrac{1}{3M}\big[-2MX + M(-X + \sin\theta)\big] \; = \; -X + \tfrac13\sin\theta Since the only forces acting on the block and ramp are either internal or vertical, the horizontal coordinate of the centre of mass remains constant, and hence X = 1 3 sin θ X = \tfrac13\sin\theta . When the block hits the ground, θ = 1 2 π \theta = \tfrac12\pi , and so X = 1 3 X = \boxed{\tfrac13} .

Laszlo Mihaly
Sep 30, 2017

In the horizontal direction the center of mass does not move (no external forces in this direction). Let us compare the initial and final states, selecting a system of reference so that initially the center of mass is at x = 0 x=0 . In the final state the sphere moves to the left by x 0 -x_0 and the mass moves to the right by R x 0 R-x_0 , so that it stays on the surface of the sphere. The center of mass is at [ 2 M x 0 + M ( R x 0 ) ] / 3 M = 0 [-2Mx_0+M(R-x_0)]/3M =0 . This yields x = 0.333 m x=0.333m .

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