A massive point-particle is sliding on the inside of a smooth elliptical loop, described by the following equation (distances in meters): 9 x 2 + 4 y 2 = 1 . Initially, the particle is at ( x , y ) = ( 3 , 0 ) , and its velocity is upward and tangential to the curve. Gravity is 1 0 m/s 2 in the − y direction.
What is the minimum initial speed ( in m/s ) required for the particle to reach ( x , y ) = ( 0 , 2 ) without flying off of the loop on the way there?
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Sir, in the last and second last lines, it should be 2 v 2 ≥ 1 7 g instead of v 2 as derived by you in the preceding line.
9
x
2
+
4
y
2
=
1
Taking derivative,
9
2
x
d
x
+
4
2
y
d
y
=
0
d
x
d
y
=
−
9
y
4
x
⋯
(
⋆
)
At the highest point, for the particle,
m
g
+
N
by loop
=
m
d
t
d
v
.
For the particle to reach the top without losing contact with the loop with minimum initial velocity, at the highest point, the value of
N
should be just negligibly greater than
0
. So,
d
t
d
v
=
g
.
Here's how we can find acceleration at the point
(
0
,
2
)
:
d
V
x
=
v
(
cos
d
θ
−
1
)
≈
0
,
d
V
y
=
v
sin
d
θ
≈
v
d
θ
So
d
t
d
v
=
v
d
t
d
θ
=
9
−
2
v
2
=
−
g
.
(Since
d
x
/
d
t
=
v
)
So
v
2
=
2
9
g
⟹
v
0
2
=
2
1
7
g
.
@Harsh Poonia can we do it without calculus With only work energy theorem
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You would need calculus to get the radius of curvature and acceleration.
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The position, velocity and acceleration vectors of a particle touching the ellipse can be given by r = ( 2 sin θ 3 cos θ ) r ˙ = ( 2 cos θ − 3 sin θ ) θ ˙ r ¨ = ( 2 cos θ − 3 sin θ ) θ ¨ − ( 2 sin θ 3 cos θ ) θ ˙ 2 The normal reaction between the particle and the ellipse will be of the form R = − m λ ( 3 sin θ 2 cos θ ) where λ > 0 , and the equation of motion of the particle is m r ¨ = R + ( − m g 0 ) ( ⋆ ) Taking the scalar product of ( ⋆ ) with ( 2 cos θ − 3 sin θ ) , we obtain ( 9 sin 2 θ + 4 cos 2 θ ) θ ¨ + 5 sin θ cos θ θ ˙ 2 d θ d [ 2 1 ( 9 sin 2 θ + 4 cos 2 θ ) θ ˙ 2 + 2 g sin θ ] 2 1 ( 9 sin 2 θ + 4 cos 2 θ ) θ ˙ 2 + 2 g sin θ θ ˙ 2 = − 2 g cos θ = 0 = 2 1 v 2 = 4 + 5 sin 2 θ v 2 − 4 g sin θ Taking the scalar product of ( ⋆ ) with ( 3 sin θ 2 cos θ ) , we obtain that λ = 4 + 5 sin 2 θ 3 ( 2 θ ˙ 2 − g sin θ ) = ( 4 + 5 sin 2 θ ) 2 3 [ 2 v 2 − g sin θ ( 1 2 + 5 sin 2 θ ) ] and hence, to reach the top of the ellipse, we must have λ ≥ 0 throughout the motion, and so 2 v 2 ≥ g sin θ ( 1 2 + 5 sin 2 θ ) 0 ≤ θ ≤ 2 1 π The RHS of this inequality is an increasing function of θ , so we want 2 v 2 ≥ 1 7 g , and hence v ≥ 9 . 5 g = 9 . 2 1 9 5 4 4 4 5 7 m s − 1 .