For all pairs of nonzero real numbers ( x , y ) such that 2 4 x 3 − 1 0 x 2 y − 3 x y 2 + y 3 = 0 and x 2 + 5 x = y 2 , let ( a , b ) denote the solution with the largest value of x . What is the value of a + b ?
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May I know how do you factorize it in the first place?
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I started by looking for a factorization with integer coefficients (I like it when that happens): ( a x + y ) ( b x + y ) ( c x + y ) . That gives a b c = 2 4 , a b + a c + b c = − 1 0 , and a + b + c = − 3 .
There are two factorizations of 2 4 for which the factors add up to − 3 , and a b + a c + b c = − 1 0 only for − 4 × 3 × − 2 .
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This problem is quickly solved after the factorization.
Just a little mistake….. neither x nor y can be zero 'coz they are nonzero numbers .
Let y = a x for some non zero real number a . Our equations transform to: x 2 + 5 x = a 2 x 2 ⇒ x + 5 = a 2 x and 2 4 x 3 − 1 0 x 3 a − 3 x 3 a 2 + a 3 x 3 = 0 a 3 − 3 a 2 − 1 0 a + 2 4 = ( a − 2 ) ( a 2 − a − 1 2 ) = ( a − 2 ) ( a − 4 ) ( a + 3 ) = 0
We know that : x = a 2 − 1 5 Clearly, x is maximised when a = 2 ⇒ x = 3 5 .
Thus, x + y = 3 x = 5 .
Note: We can divide by x in all the equations in which I have divided with x , since x = 0 .
Good. It's the best solution for this problem.
We could have done it this way:
Noting that ( 0 , 0 ) is a trivial solution. Then dividing first equation throughout by x 3 giving us following equation to consider:
( x y ) 3 − 3 ⋅ ( x y ) 2 − 1 0 ⋅ ( x y ) + 2 4 = 0 . Using Rational Root Theorem one can find that ( x y ) = 2 , 4 , − 3 . Now substituting each of them into the simpler equation i.e. x 2 + 5 x = y 2 we get required ordered pair ( a , b ) as ( 3 5 , 3 1 0 ) giving a + b = 5 .
To ensure clarity, could my solution be edited to replace all the a 's with some other variable?
In the last part of the solution I used (x,y) instead of (a,b). What it actually should be: m a x ( x ) = a = 3 5 and b = 2 a . Hence, a + b = 3 a = 5 .
y=ax ,how u came in your mind to put that, not digestable
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It should actually not be a but some other variable.
How did you come up with the transformation y = c ∗ x where c is a constant
The first equation can be factorised as ( 2 x − y ) ( 4 x − y ) ( 3 x + y ) = 0 . This gives us 3 cases:
Case 1: 2 x = y Using this substitution in the second equation gives us x 2 + 5 x = 4 x 2 . This can be rearranged to give us 3 x 2 − 5 x = 0 , which gives us x = 0 , 3 5
Case 2: 4 x = y Using this substitution in the second equation gives us x 2 + 5 x = 1 6 x 2 . This can be rearranged to give us 1 5 x 2 − 5 x = 0 , which gives us x = 0 , 1 5 5 or simplified to 3 1 .
Case 3: 3 x = − y Using this substitution in the second equation gives us x 2 + 5 x = 9 x 2 . This can be rearranged to give us 8 x 2 − 5 x = 0 , which gives us x = 0 , 8 5 .
From these 3 cases, we have 4 possible values of x : 0 , 3 5 , 3 1 , 8 5 . The first case gives us the largest value of x , namely x = 3 5 . From here, we have y = 2 x = 2 ∗ 3 5 = 3 1 0 and thus the solution ( x , y ) = ( 3 5 , 3 1 0 )
from 24x^3-10x^2y-3xy^2+y^3 = 0 we get (2x-y)(4x-y)(3x+y)=0 it's easily to see that x is max when 2x=y so x=5/3 and y=10/3 so a+b=5
Divide equation 1 by y^3 it becomes a cubic equation with roots 1/2, 1/4, -1/3 now for these ratios of x/y solve equation 2
How did you get the roots of th cubic equation after you divide eqn.1 by y^3?
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I do not know how Naman did it, but you may want to take a look at the Rational Root Theorem
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Thanks for the reference. I was a little late though.
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Note that 2 4 x 3 − 1 0 x 2 y − 3 x y 2 + y 3 = ( 2 x − y ) ( 4 x − y ) ( 3 x + y ) .
Hence there are three cases to consider:
Case 1 : y = 2 x
Substituting into x 2 + 5 x = y 2 , we get x 2 + 5 x = 4 x 2 ⇒ x ( 3 x − 5 ) = 0 Hence x = 0 or 3 5 . The corresponding y values are 0 and 3 1 0 respectively.
Case 2 : y = 4 x
Substituting into x 2 + 5 x = y 2 , we get x 2 + 5 x = 1 6 x 2 ⇒ x ( 1 5 x − 5 ) = 0 Hence x = 0 or 3 1 . The corresponding y values are 0 and 3 4 respectively.
Case 3 : y = − 3 x
Substituting into x 2 + 5 x = y 2 , we get x 2 + 5 x = 9 x 2 ⇒ x ( 8 x − 5 ) = 0 Hence x = 0 or 8 5 . The corresponding y values are 0 and − 8 1 5 respectively.
Hence, the solutions are ( 0 , 0 ) , ( 3 5 , 3 1 0 ) , ( 3 1 , 3 4 ) and ( 8 5 , − 8 1 5 ) .
The solution with the largest value of x is ( 3 5 , 3 1 0 ) , so a + b = 3 5 + 3 1 0 = 5 .