Some secondary parts of a triangle

Geometry Level 3

About triangle A B C ABC we know that:

  • h 1 = 40 {{h}_{1}}=40
  • h 2 = h 3 = 48 {{h}_{2}}={{h}_{3}}=48

where h 1 {{h}_{1}} , h 2 {{h}_{2}} , h 3 {{h}_{3}} are its altitudes.

Find its perimeter.


The answer is 160.

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4 solutions

David Vreken
Aug 15, 2020

By symmetry, A B C \triangle ABC is an isosceles triangle.

Let A D = h 1 = 40 AD = h_1 = 40 , B E = h 2 = 48 BE = h_2 = 48 , and C F = h 3 = 48 CF = h_3 = 48 . Also, let x = B D = D C x = BD = DC , y = B F = C E y = BF = CE , and z = F A = E A z = FA = EA .

By the Pythagorean Theorem on A D B \triangle ADB , x 2 + 4 0 2 = ( y + z ) 2 x^2 + 40^2 = (y + z)^2 .

By the Pythagorean Theorem on B F C \triangle BFC , y 2 + 4 8 2 = ( 2 x ) 2 y^2 + 48^2 = (2x)^2 .

By the Pythagorean Theorem on A F C \triangle AFC , z 2 + 4 8 2 = ( y + z ) 2 z^2 + 48^2 = (y + z)^2 .

The three equations have positive solutions of x = 30 x = 30 , y = 36 y = 36 , and z = 14 z = 14 , so the perimeter of A B C \triangle ABC is P = 2 x + 2 y + 2 z = 160 P = 2x + 2y + 2z = \boxed{160} .

Very elegant solution. No area formula, just Pythagorean theorem. Thank you David!

Thanos Petropoulos - 10 months ago

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Thanks! Fortunately it was an isosceles, otherwise my method would have had 6 equations with 6 variables!

David Vreken - 9 months, 4 weeks ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Aug 15, 2020

Assuming the perpendicular from A A to B C BC be h 1 h_1 , then h 2 h_2 and h 3 h_3 are the altitude from B B and C C . Since h 2 = h 3 h_2=h_3 , then b = c b=c . Then the area of A B C \triangle ABC , [ A B C ] = a h 1 2 = b h 2 2 20 a = 24 b b = 5 6 a [ABC] = \dfrac {ah_1}2 = \dfrac {bh_2}2 \implies 20a = 24 b \implies b = \dfrac 56a . We note that

b 2 ( a 2 ) 2 = h 1 2 25 36 a 2 + a 2 4 = 4 0 2 16 36 a 2 = 4 0 2 4 6 a = 40 a = 60 b = 5 6 a = 50 \begin{aligned} b^2 - \left(\dfrac a2 \right)^2 & = h_1^2 \\ \frac {25}{36}a^2 + \frac {a^2}4 & = 40^2 \\ \frac {16}{36}a^2 & = 40^2 \\ \frac 46 a & = 40 \\ \implies a & = 60 \\ b & = \frac 56 a = 50 \end{aligned}

The perimeter of A B C = a + 2 b = 60 + 2 × 50 = 160 \triangle ABC = a + 2b = 60 + 2\times 50 = \boxed{160} .

Mark Hennings
Aug 15, 2020

For any triangle with area Δ \Delta , the sides of the triangle can be expressed in terms of the altitudes and Δ \Delta by a = 2 Δ h 1 1 b = 2 Δ h 2 1 c = 2 Δ h 3 1 a \; = \; 2\Delta h_1^{-1} \hspace{1cm} b \; =\; 2\Delta h_2^{-1} \hspace{1cm} c \; = \; 2\Delta h_3^{-1} and hence we have the semiperimeter s = Δ ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) s = \Delta(h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1}) and s a = Δ ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) s b = Δ ( h 1 1 h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) s c = Δ ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 h 3 1 ) s-a = \Delta(-h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1}) \hspace{1cm} s-b = \Delta(h_1^{-1} - h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1}) \hspace{1cm} s-c = \Delta(h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} - h_3^{-1}) Using Heron's Formula, we deduce that Δ = 1 ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) ( h 1 1 h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 h 3 1 ) \Delta \; = \; \frac{1}{\sqrt{(h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1})(-h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1})(h_1^{-1} - h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1})(h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} - h_3^{-1})}} Thus the perimeter is 2 s = 2 h 1 1 + h 2 1 + h 3 1 ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) ( h 1 1 h 2 1 + h 3 1 ) ( h 1 1 + h 2 1 h 3 1 ) 2s \; = \; 2\sqrt{\frac{h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1}}{(-h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1})(h_1^{-1} - h_2^{-1} + h_3^{-1})(h_1^{-1} + h_2^{-1} - h_3^{-1})}} With h 1 = 48 h_1=48 and h 2 = h 3 = 40 h_2=h_3=40 we find the perimeter to be 160 \boxed{160} . This method will work for all triangles, not just isosceles ones.

Nice result, thank you Mark! I hadn't realised that any side can be expressed in terms of the altitudes. Here is some twist involving a few more elements (my initial intention).

Thanos Petropoulos - 10 months ago

The second equation is not needed. The equality of two altitudes imply that the triangle is isosceles. Let the sides of the triangle have lengths a , b a,b and b b . Then

b 2 = a 2 4 + 1600 b^2=\dfrac {a^2}{4}+1600

1 2 × a × 40 = 1 2 × b × 48 \dfrac 12\times a\times 40=\dfrac 12\times b\times 48

These two equations yield

a = 6 b 5 b 2 = 36 b 2 100 + 1600 a=\dfrac {6b}{5}\implies b^2=\dfrac {36b^2}{100}+1600

b = 50 , a = 60 , a + 2 b = 160 \implies b=50,a=60,a+2b=160

Hence the perimeter of the triangle is 160 \boxed {160} .

You are right the second relation is not needed. Initially I was experimenting with a scalene triangle, so I missed this shortcut when I eventually came to an isosceles one. I deleted the second equation and I will try to adjust the lengths to make it more interesting.

Thanos Petropoulos - 10 months ago

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My solution shows how to answer this question in the scalene case as well.

Mark Hennings - 10 months ago

Cute problem

Valentin Duringer - 10 months ago

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Thank you! Here is the sequel.

Thanos Petropoulos - 10 months ago

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