Some triangle ... right

Geometry Level 4

In triangle A B C ABC , D D is a point on A C AC such that A D = D C AD = DC and B D C 9 0 \angle BDC \neq 90^\circ . Given that D C B = 2 5 \angle DCB = 25 ^ \circ and D B A = 6 5 \angle DBA = 65^\circ , what is the measure (in degrees) of B D C \angle BDC ?


The answer is 130.

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8 solutions

Tong Zou
Dec 19, 2013

Let B A C = x \angle{BAC}=x and D B C = y \angle{DBC}=y . Then by Law of Sines we have sin x B D = sin 65 A D , sin 25 B D = sin y C D \frac{\sin{x}}{BD}=\frac{\sin{65}}{AD}, \frac{\sin{25}}{BD}=\frac{\sin{y}}{CD} . Using A D = C D AD=CD , we get sin x sin y = sin 25 sin 65 \sin{x}\sin{y}=\sin{25}\sin{65} . Then use product to sum formula to arrive at cos ( x y ) = cos 40 \cos{(x-y)}=\cos{40} . So x y = ± 40 x-y=\pm 40 and x + y = 90 x+y=90 . Therefor the possible values for x x are 65 and 25. So B D C \angle{BDC} can be either 130 or 90.

I see that one of the tags on this problem is "construction".

Is there a (more elegant) solution using a construction? (Perhaps, construct a point E such that ED=DC)? If anyone finds a purely geometric solution, I would love to know it!

minimario minimario - 7 years, 5 months ago

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What about George G's solution?

Jorge Tipe - 7 years, 5 months ago
George G
Dec 19, 2013

There are two answers 130 and 90. If angle ABC=90, then it's very easy to see angle BDC=130.

If angle ABC is not 90, drop an altitude from A to BC, let the foot be X. Then angle AXD=XAD=65=ABD, so A,X,B,D are concyclic. Hence BDC=AXB=90.

It's pretty clear to see an isosceles triangle ABC with angle ABC= 130 would satisfy the condition in the problem.

It's pretty clear to see an isosceles triangle ABC with angle ABC= 130 would satisfy the condition in the problem.

Well, that's the first thought that came to my mind [immediately when I saw 65 + 25 = 90 65+25=90 ] when I started solving this problem. I put 90 90 as the answer and got it wrong. I knew there had to be another answer. But I started to feel lazy and joined the solution discussions.

But I think they should have specified that B D C 90 \angle BDC\neq 90 degrees. Oh, well! There goes my rating! Now I have to solve more geometry problems to get my rating up!

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 5 months ago

I think the correct way to pose this problem would have been to find the sum of all the possible measures of angle bdc

Sagnik Saha - 7 years, 5 months ago

yup.. here ABC is the one & only triangle

sasank jammi - 7 years, 5 months ago

Why is A X D = 6 5 ? \angle AXD = 65^\circ?

Michael Tang - 7 years, 5 months ago

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AXC is a right triangle and D is the midpoint of AC, so XD=AD.

George G - 7 years, 5 months ago

Angles opposite to equal sides are equal.since AD=DC angle DBA=DBC.In triangle BDC sum of the angles is 180 degrees.Therefore Angle BDC=180-65-25=90

sasank jammi - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Angles opposite to equal sides are equal? Need to be in the same triangle.

George G - 7 years, 5 months ago

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k.. thanks for d correction Mr.George

sasank jammi - 7 years, 5 months ago
Jun Arro Estrella
Dec 19, 2016

Law of sines will do the trick

Even u can use m'n theorem

Harshi Singh
Jun 20, 2015

@Calvin Lin I think this problem can be solved without using trignometry.Is I'm right??

Mehul Arora
Oct 27, 2014

This is too easy to be a level 4 I think that everyone should be able to solve it...

Sagnik Mukherjee
Dec 20, 2013

Here is a solution to the problem using elementary trigonometry. From the well-known trigonometric identity: (m+n)cot( BDC )=ncot( DBA )-mcot( DBC ) which holds for any triangle ABC and any cevian BD such as CD:AD=m:n , we have, for the above mentioned triangle, the equation: 2cot( BDC )=cot( 65 )-cot( 180 - 25 - BDC ) , which is obtained by setting m=n=1 , and the values of the respective angles (in degrees) as given. Writing the cotangents as the ratios of the cosines and sines, and then by very little trigonometric manipulation, the equation reduces to cos( BDC - 40 )=0=cos 90 *. Since *angle **BDC is less than 180 degrees, this reduced equation can be written in the form: (BDC-40)=90 , from which we get BDC=90+40=130 , which is the required answer.

During cancellation, it has been assumed that cot ( BDC ) is not equal to zero. Otherwise, BDC=90 is an obvious solution to the equation.

Sagnik Mukherjee - 7 years, 5 months ago
Brian Yao
Dec 19, 2013

First off, I would like to point out that this problem has two reasonable solutions: 130 ° 130° and 90 ° 90° . I believe the latter was ignored because would have been too obvious, since it can be easily found if one makes false assumptions, such as that B D BD is a perpendicular bisector of A C AC , or that B D BD bisects A B C ∠ABC , etc. In either case, this problem should be fixed so that there is only one definitive solution.

Now for the actual solution. Drawing a diagram, I labeled A D AD as x x and A D B ∠ADB as y y . Therefore, in terms of these assignments, B A D = 180 ° ( 65 ° + y ) = 115 ° y ∠BAD=180°-(65°+y)=115°-y , and D B C = 180 ° ( 180 ° y + 25 ° ) = y 25 ° ∠DBC=180°-(180°-y+25°)=y-25° . Using the Law of Sines on Δ A D B \Delta ADB and Δ C D B \Delta CDB , we see that:

  1. sin 65 ° x = sin ( 115 ° y ) B D \frac{\sin 65°}{x}=\frac{\sin (115°-y)}{BD}
  2. sin 25 ° B D = sin ( y 25 ° ) x \frac{\sin 25°}{BD}=\frac{\sin (y-25°)}{x}

Solving for BD, we get B D = x sin ( 115 ° y ) sin 65 ° BD=\frac{x \sin (115°-y)}{\sin 65°} and B D = x sin 25 ° sin ( y 25 ° ) BD=\frac{x \sin 25°}{\sin (y-25°)} . Setting these equal to each other, the x x 's cancel, and our final expression is sin 25 ° sin ( y 25 ° ) = sin ( 115 ° y ) sin 65 ° \frac{\sin 25°}{\sin (y-25°)}=\frac{\sin (115°-y)}{\sin 65°} . Though I haven't been able to rigorously prove it yet, the only two reasonable cases are when both sides are equal to sin 25 ° sin 65 ° \frac{\sin 25°}{\sin 65°} or when both sides are equal to 1. Using the first case, sin 25 ° sin ( y 25 ° ) = sin 25 ° sin 65 ° y = 90 ° \frac{\sin 25°}{\sin (y-25°)}=\frac{\sin 25°}{\sin 65°} \Rightarrow y=90° . Using the second case, sin 25 ° = sin ( y 25 ° ) y = 50 ° \sin 25°=\sin (y-25°) \Rightarrow y=50° . Since the angle we are looking for is 180 ° y 180°-y , we obtain the two answers: m B D C = 130 ° \boxed{m∠BDC=130°} or m B D C = 90 ° m∠BDC=90° .

After reading Tony's solution, I can see that solving the final *equation could be solved like so:

Cross multiplying gives sin 25 ° cos 25 ° = sin ( 115 ° y ) sin ( y 25 ° ) \sin 25° \cos 25°=\sin (115°-y) \sin (y-25°) .

Applying the product-to-sum formula on the right side and applying the identity sin 2 θ = 2 sin θ cos θ \sin 2\theta=2\sin \theta \cos \theta on the left side gives us sin 50 ° 2 = cos ( 140 ° 2 y ) cos 90 ° 2 sin 50 ° = cos ( 140 ° 2 y ) cos 40 ° = cos ( 140 ° 2 y ) \frac{\sin 50°}{2}=\frac{\cos (140°-2y)-\cos 90°}{2} \Rightarrow \sin 50°=\cos (140°-2y) \Rightarrow \cos40°=\cos (140°-2y) . Since cos ( θ ) = cos θ \cos (-\theta)=\cos \theta , 40 ° = ± ( 140 ° 2 y ) 40°=\pm (140°-2y) . Solving this equation yields y = 50 ° y=50° and y = 90 ° y=90° , and thus the desired solutions.

Brian Yao - 7 years, 5 months ago

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