Two students, Jon and Javin, are trying to find the spring constant of an ideal, massless spring.
Both of their setups are the same:
However, Jon and Javin have different ways of finding .
Jon proposes:
Suppose the mass is hung on the spring and supported such that the spring remains unextended. This mass has more gravitational potential energy compared to when the mass is unsupported and the spring extends to length . In fact, it has more gravitational potential energy, where is the gravitational field strength. This additional gravitational potential energy must be converted to potential energy of the spring as the spring extends to length , which is by Hooke's Law. Hence by Conservation of Energy, , so .
Javin proposes:
The gravitational force on the mass is , where is the gravitational field strength, while the force on the mass by the spring is by Hooke's Law. Since the mass is in equilibrium, by Newton's First Law, the forces on the mass must balance: . Hence .
Jon's and Javin's expressions for differ. Who has the correct reasoning?
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When you tie a mass at the end of the spring and release it, it will go further down (i.e exceed length L 2 , let that length be L 3 ) and then oscillate about its equilibrium point L 2 . The velocity of the block is 0 at the lowest point L 3 , not L 2 . When equating potential energy to kinetic energy, x would be L 3 − L 1 , not L 2 − L 1 .Thus, Jon is wrong.