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f ( x ) = a 1 + a x + b 1 + b x c 1 + c x \large f(x) = \frac{a}{1+ax} + \frac{b}{1+bx} - \frac{c}{1+cx}

Let f ( x ) f(x) be a function as defined above where a , b a, \ b and c c are arbitrary non-negative integral constants and a b c 0 abc \neq 0 . Which of the following results are possible?

I. f ( 0 ) f(0) can be zero.

II. f ( 1 ) ( 0 ) f^{(1)} (0) can be zero.

III. f ( 2 ) ( 0 ) f^{(2)} (0) can be zero.

IV. f ( 3 ) ( 0 ) f^{(3)} (0) can be zero.

Notations: f ( n ) ( a ) f^{(n)}(a) denotes the n t h n^{th} derivative of f ( x ) f(x) at x = a x=a .

Follow up problem:

What conclusion do you deduce for f ( n ) ( 0 ) f^{(n)}(0) for non-negative integral values of n n (note that f ( 0 ) ( 0 ) f^{(0)}(0) is the same as f ( 0 ) f(0) )? Does this problem have trivial solutions? If yes, then what are they?

I only II only II and IV I, II, III and IV I and III I, II and III III and IV I and II

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1 solution

Viki Zeta
Oct 12, 2016

f ( x ) = a 1 + a x + b 1 + b x c 1 + c x x = 0 f ( 0 ) = a + b c a b c 0 a 0 , b 0 , c 0 Take the case, a c , b c , a + b = c f ( 0 ) = c c = 0 So, f(x) = 0 can be true for some integer ’a’, ’b’ and ’c’ f ( x ) = d d x f ( x ) = d d x a 1 + a x + d d x b 1 + b x d d x c 1 + c x = a 2 ( 1 + a x ) 2 b 2 ( 1 + b x ) 2 + c 2 ( 1 + c x ) 2 f ( 0 ) = c 2 a 2 b 2 = c 2 ( a 2 + b 2 ) Take the case, c 2 = a 2 + b 2 , f ( 0 ) = c 2 c 2 = 0 So, f’(x)=0 can be true for some integer ’a’, ’b’, and ’c’ f ( x ) = a 3 ( 1 + a x ) 3 + b 3 ( 1 + b x ) 3 c 3 ( 1 + c x ) 3 f ( 0 ) = a 3 + b 3 c 3 This is only possible if a 3 + b 3 = c 3 , But according to Fermat’s last theorem There is no integer n 3 ; such that a n + b n = c n The other two options follows the same condition. f(x) = \dfrac{a}{1+ax} + \dfrac{b}{1+bx} - \dfrac{c}{1+cx} \\ \boxed{x=0} \\ f(0) = a + b - c \\ abc \ne 0 \\ \implies a \ne 0, b\ne 0, c \ne 0 \\ \text{Take the case, } a \ne c, b \ne c, a + b = c \\ f(0) = c - c = 0 \\ \text{So, f(x) = 0 can be true for some integer 'a', 'b' and 'c'} \\ f'(x) = \dfrac{d}{dx} f(x) = \dfrac{d}{dx}\dfrac{a}{1+ax} + \dfrac{d}{dx}\dfrac{b}{1+bx} - \dfrac{d}{dx}\dfrac{c}{1+cx} \\ = -\dfrac{a^2}{(1+ax)^2} -\dfrac{b^2}{(1+bx)^2} + \dfrac{c^2}{(1+cx)^2} \\ f'(0) = c^2 - a^2 - b^2 = c^2 - (a^2 + b^2) \\ \text{Take the case, } c^2 = a^2 + b^2, \\ f'(0) = c^2 - c^2 = 0 \\ \text{So, f'(x)=0 can be true for some integer 'a', 'b', and 'c'}\\ f''(x) = \dfrac{a^3}{(1+ax)^3} +\dfrac{b^3}{(1+bx)^3} - \dfrac{c^3}{(1+cx)^3} \\ f''(0) = a^3 + b^3 - c^3 \\ \text{This is only possible if } a^3 + b^3 = c^3 \text{, But according to Fermat's last theorem} \\ \text{There is no integer } n \ge 3 \text{; such that} \\ a^n + b^n = c^n \\ \text{The other two options follows the same condition.}

If a+b = c, and a^2+b^2 = c^2. Then ab =0? Which means both equations can be true separately, but not simultaneously?

Siva Bathula - 4 years, 8 months ago

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a + b = 0 a+b=0 is for first case. You should not use it in next case

Viki Zeta - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Sorry a + b = c a+b=c

Viki Zeta - 4 years, 8 months ago

Magnificent! The exact method I was looking for. If you wish you might as well include the answer to my followup question in your solution as well.

Tapas Mazumdar - 4 years, 8 months ago

If both 1 and 2 are true, meaning, f(0) 'can be zero' and first derivative 'can also be zero' at 0. (1) gives a + b = c and (2) a^2 + b^2 = c^2. But if both (1) and (2) are true simultaneously, squaring (1) would give a.b = 0. Meaning either of a or b is zero. Which means only either (1) or (2) can be true, but not both.

Siva Bathula - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Yes. Separately they are both true. You shouldn't follow the result of one to the other. That's why both I and II when checked are true.

Tapas Mazumdar - 4 years, 8 months ago

Think about it. If you were to check for f ( 0 ) f(0) and for f ( 1 ) ( 0 ) f^{(1)} (0) , would you consider the result of one for the other? And my problem said 'arbitrary' values for a , b a,\ b and c c , which means they can take up any necessary values to satisfy the f ( 0 ) = 0 f(0) = 0 and f ( 1 ) ( 0 ) = 0 f^{(1)} (0) = 0 , after which, by Fermat's Last Theorem, there are no possible positive integral solutions for a , b a, \ b and c c .

Tapas Mazumdar - 4 years, 8 months ago

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