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Algebra Level 4

Denote by S S the set of all positive integers. A function f : S S f: S \rightarrow S satisfies

f ( f 2 ( m ) + 2 f 2 ( n ) ) = m 2 + 2 n 2 f(f^2(m) + 2f^2(n)) = m^2 + 2 n^2

for all m , n S m,n \in S .

Find f ( 2016 ) f(2016) .


The answer is 2016.

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1 solution

Kushal Bose
Nov 10, 2016

From the pattern in the equation it may be concluded that f ( x ) = x f(x)=x

For confirmation I am going to show two cases.

Case(1): f ( x ) < x f ( m ) < m f 2 ( m ) < m 2 f(x)<x \\ \implies f(m)<m \\ \implies f^2(m)<m^2

Similar for f 2 ( n ) < n 2 f^2(n)<n^2

f 2 ( m ) + 2 f 2 ( n ) < m 2 + 2 n 2 f ( f 2 ( m ) + 2 f 2 ( n ) < f ( m 2 + 2 n 2 ) < m 2 + 2 n 2 ) f^2(m)+2f^2(n)<m^2+2n^2 \\ f(f^2(m)+2f^2(n)<f(m^2+2n^2)<m^2+2n^2)

So, it contradicts the question then f ( x ) x f(x) \nless x

Case(2) f ( x ) > x f ( m ) > m f 2 ( m ) > m 2 f(x)>x \\ \implies f(m)>m \\ \implies f^2(m)>m^2

Similar for f 2 ( n ) > n 2 f^2(n)>n^2

f 2 ( m ) + 2 f 2 ( n ) > m 2 + 2 n 2 f ( f 2 ( m ) + 2 f 2 ( n ) > f ( m 2 + 2 n 2 ) > m 2 + 2 n 2 ) f^2(m)+2f^2(n)>m^2+2n^2 \\ f(f^2(m)+2f^2(n)>f(m^2+2n^2)>m^2+2n^2)

So, it contradicts the question then f ( x ) x f(x) \ngtr x

So, the last option is f ( x ) = x f(x)=x

Your cases are assuming that f ( x ) < x f(x) < x for all values of x x . You haven't dealt with the case where sometimes f ( x ) > x f(x) > x and sometimes f ( x ) = x f(x) =x and sometimes f ( x ) < x f(x) < x .

This is a common misconception made when trying to work with functional equations.

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

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