A line is "special" to a curve if it is both a tangent and a normal of the curve.
Only two lines are special to the curve x 3 + a x 2 + b x + c , where a , b , c are constants, and the two lines have the same slope.
What is this slope?
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Brilliant solution!
m = 2 1 doesn't work because if it were true, then 4 m 2 − 4 m + 1 = 0 , implying that a 2 − 3 b = − 4 , which means f ′ ( t ) = 3 t 2 + 2 a t + 3 a 2 + 4 = 2 1 , which solves to t = 6 − 2 a ± 2 i , an imaginary number.
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I figured there had to be some a yielding real solutions and didn’t bother to check. Good find!
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Ivo! My reply to the obviously brilliant 15 year old XX from Taiwan. "Aha! Sorry X X, I didn't get that subtlety. Sometimes there are no lines and sometimes there are four lines but in one "super-special case, there are only two lines. What is the slope in that "super-special" case? Gotcha. Very clever. Armed with that new information I will look at the problem again. (Psst: It might be a good idea to say this in the question)"
Don't you mean m=-1/2 doesn't work as opposed to m=1/2 ?
where does (a^2-3b)^2=16 come from?
I don't know where you have gone wrong but -0.5 is not the answer. Take a simple example: y = x 3 − 3 x there are two solutions and four lines.
1a) Slope:-0.1188 x1=-0.980 x2=1.96.
1b) Slope:-0.1188 x1=0.980 x2=-1.96.
2a) Slope:-2.1317 x1=-0.538 x2=1.076.
2b) Slope:-2.1317 x1=0.538 x2=-1.076 .
Where x1 is the x value at the tangent and x2 is the x value at the intersection.
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Part of the problem is that you have to find the a , b , and c values of x 3 + a x 2 + b x + c so that there are only 2 "special" lines instead of 4 "special" lines.
Guys, the question is not phrased very well. The obviously brilliant 15 year old X. X. from Taiwan explained it to me. This was my reply "Aha! Sorry X X, I didn't get that subtlety. Sometimes there are no lines and sometimes there are four lines but in one "super-special case, there are only two lines. What is the slope in that "super-special" case? Gotcha. Very clever. Armed with that new information I will look at the problem again. (Psst: It might be a good idea to say this in the question)"
Let f ( x ) = x 3 + a x 2 + b x + c ⟹ f ′ ( x 0 ) = 3 x 0 2 + 2 a x 0 + b ⟹ the tangent line to the curve at ( x 0 , y 0 ) is y − ( x 0 3 + a x 0 2 + b x 0 + c ) = ( 3 x 0 2 + 2 a x 0 + b ) ( x − x 0 )
Let the tangent line be normal to the curve at ( x 1 , y 1 ) ⟹ ( x − x 0 ) ( x 1 2 + ( a + x 0 ) x 1 − ( 2 x 0 + a ) x 0 ) = 0
x 1 = x 0 ⟹ x 1 = − ( a + 2 x 0 )
Since the tangent is also normal to the curve at ( x 1 , y 1 ) ⟹ − 1 = ( 3 x 0 2 + 2 a x 0 + b ) ( 1 2 x 0 2 + 8 a x 0 + a 2 + b ) ⟹ 3 6 x 0 4 + 4 8 a x 0 3 + ( 1 9 a 2 + 1 5 b ) x 0 2 + 2 a ( a 2 + 5 b ) x 0 + ( a 2 + b ) b + 1 = 0 .
Let a = 0 ⟹ 3 6 x 0 4 + 1 5 b x 0 2 + b 2 + 1 = 0 ⟹ x 0 2 = 7 2 − 1 5 b ± 3 9 b 2 − 1 6 and letting 9 b 2 − 1 6 = 0 ⟹ b = ± 3 4 .
For real x 0 choose b = − 3 4 ⟹ x 0 2 = 1 8 5 ⟹ x 0 = ± 3 2 5 ⟹ m 1 = m 2 = − 2 1 .
how do you justify setting a=0?
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Refer to my above solution.
Setting a = 0 and finding a value of b , which in this case is b = − 3 4 , will give us equal slopes. I just choose the appropriate value of a and found a value of b so that the slopes are equal.
Using a = 0 and b = − 3 4 ⟹ 3 2 4 x 4 − 1 8 0 x 0 2 + 2 5 = 0 ⟹ x 0 2 = 1 8 5 ⟹ x 0 = ± 3 2 5 ⟹ m 1 = m 2 = − 2 1 .
I could have solved this problem in a simpler fashion as shown in some of the above posts.
The cubic can be translated on the plane without affecting the slope to transform it to f ( x ) = x 3 − a 2 x . With derivative f ′ ( x ) = 3 x 2 − a 2
( t , t 3 − a 2 t ) is some point on the curve and the tangent line has equation y − ( t 3 − a 2 t ) = ( 3 t 2 − a 2 ) ( x − t )
Solve f ( x ) = y to find where this line hits the cubic again: Besides x = t the equation x 3 − a 2 x = ( 3 t 2 − a 2 ) x − 2 t 3 has solution x = − 2 t
The slope of f ( x ) at this point is 1 2 t 2 − a 2
Now solve to find when the two slopes are perpendicular: ( 1 2 t 2 − a 2 ) ( 3 t 2 − a 2 ) = − 1 whose only real solutions are
a = ± 3 2 and t = ± 6 1 0
Finally, the slope is then 3 ( 6 1 0 ) 2 − ( 3 2 ) 2 = − 0 . 5
In retrospect using a instead of a 2 in the original cubic would have been simpler, but I originally thought in terms of the x-intercepts being ( ± a , 0 ) .
Your first equation should be f ( x ) = x 3 − a 2 x ?
Note that you should ideally use f ( x ) = x 3 − a x , in part because your current formulation doesn't allow you to deal with x 3 + x unless you allow for purely imaginary a .
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Thanks for the correction.
I pointed out at the bottom that a 2 was not the ideal choice. I had already typed everything up and didn't feel like changing it since the solution still works. x 3 + x is easily ruled out since it's obvious that no normal will touch the curve again.
This problem reminds me of an earlier problem on Sept-03, where the square of maximum area was placed on cubic curve.
Here too, assuming symmetry around the origin, the cubic curve is y=x^3-gx, where g is to be found within the given constraints of the tangent cutting the curve as a normal.
In the Sept-03 problem, g=√8, while here, it is g= 4/3, and after some algebra,
the slope of tangent/normal = -(1/2).
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f ( x ) = x 3 + a x 2 + b x + c
f ′ ( x ) = 3 x 2 + 2 a x + b
For convenience, let the point of tangency of a special line have coordinates ( t , f ( t ) ) and the point of intersection, where the special line is normal to the curve, have coordinates ( n , f ( n ) ) .
We have:
f ′ ( t ) ⋅ f ′ ( n ) = − 1
t − n f ( t ) − f ( n ) = f ′ ( t )
Second equation leads to ( n − t ) ( n + a + 2 t ) = 0 ⟹ n = − a − 2 t .
Substituting into the first and using m = f ′ ( x ) , this yields ( 3 t 2 + 2 a t + b ) ⋅ ( 1 2 t 2 + 8 a t + a 2 + b ) = − 1 ⟹ 4 m 2 + ( a 2 − 3 b ) m + 1 = 0 . Since the slopes of the two lines is the same, this quadratic equation must only have one root, implying ( a 2 − 3 b ) 2 = 1 6 ⟹ 4 m 2 ± 4 m + 1 = 0 ⟹ m = ∓ 2 1 . However, m = 2 1 leads to a non-real t .