Speed of sound in gases

A certain ideal gas is made up of unknown identical molecules. It is known that under standard conditions, i.e., atmospheric pressure and zero degrees Celsius, the density of the gas is ρ = 1.3 mg / cm 3 \rho=1.3~ \text{mg}/{\text{cm}^{3}} and the speed of sound in it is v = 330 m / s v=330~\text{m}/\text{s} . Surprisingly, by measuring the density and the speed of sound we can determine the number of degrees of freedom i i of the molecules. Find i i . The atmospheric pressure is p A = 101.05 kPa p_{A}=101.05~\text{kPa}


The answer is 5.

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Ahaan Rungta
Dec 2, 2013

Let v v be the speed of sound. Let γ \gamma be the Adiabatic Index. Let P P be the pressure. Let ρ \rho be the density. Then, it is known that v = γ P ρ . v = \sqrt {\dfrac {\gamma \cdot P}{\rho}}. Thus, γ = ρ v 2 P . \gamma = \dfrac {\rho v^2}{P}. But we also know that if f f is the number of degrees of freedom, γ = 1 + 2 f f = 2 γ 1 . \gamma = 1 + \dfrac {2}{f} \implies f = \dfrac {2}{\gamma - 1}. So we solve: f = 2 γ 1 = 2 ρ v 2 P 1 . \begin{aligned} f &= \dfrac {2}{\gamma - 1} \\&= \dfrac {2}{\dfrac {\rho v^2}{P} - 1}. \end{aligned} Substituting ρ = 1.3 kg/m 3 \rho = 1.3 \, \text{kg/m}^3 , v = 330 m/s v = 330 \, \text{m/s} , and P = 1.0105 × 1 0 5 Pa P = 1.0105 \times 10^{5} \, \text{Pa} , we get f = 5 . f = \boxed {5}.

It should be clear that this gas is very near the values of Oxygen gas. One way of figuring this out more directly would be to note that, in order for this to be the case, we can, thermodynamically, derive the Gamma value of the gas to be γ 7 5 \gamma \approx \frac{7}{5} , which would be the value necessary for a diatomic molecule (and, hence, it must have 5 degrees of freedom).

Assuming that this gas is ideal and the postulates of classical thermodynamics/kinetic theory, we have: c = ( p ρ ) q c=\sqrt{\left(\frac{\partial p}{\partial \rho}\right)_q} For some density ρ \rho , pressure p p , and constant heat exchange q q (with the means taken to be adiabatic), and speed of transmission, c c .

This is, then: c = C p p C v ρ c=\sqrt{\frac{C_p p}{C_v \rho}} We solve for γ = C p C v \gamma=\frac{C_p}{C_v} to get: ρ p c 2 = γ 1.4009 \frac{\rho}{p}c^2=\gamma\approx1.4009 Hence, we have that our gas (if ideal) must be a diatomic molecule; from this, we note that diatomic molecules have one rotational symmetry in 3 dimensions, giving us 6 1 = 5 6-1=5 degrees of freedom.

Please feel free to ask for a more in-depth explanation/motivation, if necessary.

I just remembered that there is, indeed, a relation between γ \gamma and the number of degrees of freedom f d f_d from kinetic theory:

f d = 2 γ 1 f_d=\frac{2}{\gamma-1}

Hence: f d 4.99 f_d\approx 4.99 Giving us the 5 degrees of freedom required.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 6 months ago
Suryansh Tiwari
Dec 7, 2013

As we now that V=√(gamma×P)/d As By putting value we gamma=1.4 For which degree of freedom is 5....

Forget to add one thing this value 1.4 Simply indicate that here vibrational motion is excluded hence ans is 5

suryansh tiwari - 7 years, 6 months ago

We can write v = ( γ P / ρ ) v = \sqrt{(\gamma * P/\rho)}

Squaring and putting in the given values, we find γ = 1.401 \gamma = 1.401

We know that γ = C p / C v \gamma = C_p/C_v

C v = i R / 2 C_v = i*R/2

C p = C v + R = ( i + 2 ) R / 2 C_p = C_v + R = (i+2) * R/2

γ = ( i + 2 ) / i \gamma = (i+2)/i

= > γ = 1 + 2 / i => \gamma = 1 + 2/i

= > i = 2 / ( γ 1 ) => i = 2 / (\gamma - 1)

= > i = 4.99 => i = 4.99

Therefore, we can approximate i i to be 5 5

i = 5 i = \boxed{5}

Since we have v = (YP/d) Y=Cp/Cv; P is pressure and d is density. On substituting we get Y = 1.4. Also Cp = R + Cv [Mayer's relation]. Therefore we we Cv = R/0.8. Also Cv is fR/2. f is degree of freedom. Therefore f = 5..

Check your first equation...its v^2 = (YP/d)

Upendra Singh - 7 years, 6 months ago

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Ya i'm sorry' i mean to put (YP/d)^0.5

Chandramouli Chowdhury - 7 years, 6 months ago
Shubham Kumar
Dec 2, 2013

Let velocity of sound be 'v' m/s, density be 'd' kg/cubic.m, pressure be 'P' Pa, ratio of heat capacities be 'g' and degree of freedom be 'i'.

Given, v = 330 m/s, d = 1.3 Kg/cubic.m and P = 101050 Pa.

So,

v = sqrt((P * g)/d) ..................(relation for velocity of sound varying with pressure and density)

330 * 330 * 1.3 = 101050 * g

g = 1.4

Now,

g = 1 + (2/i) .........................(relation between g and i)

1.4 = 1 + (2/i)

(1/i) = 0.2

i = 5 (Ans)

Velocity of sound = sqrt(gamma x P/density). Gamma is1.4 so the gas is diatomic and has 5 degreees of freedom

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