27 + 5 8 \sqrt{27+5\sqrt{8}}

Algebra Level 2

If 27 + 5 8 = a + b , \sqrt{27+5\sqrt{8}}=a+\sqrt{b}, where a a is an integer and b b is a prime number, what is b ? b?

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4 solutions

Damiann Mangan
Mar 12, 2014

27 + 5 8 = 5 2 + 2 5 2 + 2 2 = 5 + 2 \sqrt{27+5 \sqrt{8}} = \sqrt{5^{2} + 2 * 5 * \sqrt{2} + \sqrt{2}^{2}} = 5 + \sqrt{2}

which means b = 2 b = 2 .

the answer must be +-2 because in the square root the 2 can be + or _

hassam rind - 7 years, 3 months ago

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I think you are confused, he is trying to make the from a 2 + 2 a b + b 2 a^2 + 2ab + b^2

Now as you are saying , 2 = ( 2 ) 2 o r ( 2 ) 2 2 = (\sqrt{2})^2 ~or~ (-\sqrt{2})^2 , it absolutely correct ,

but see what sign we are having in the form 2ab , positive?

Now suppose you say , we can make the sign of 2ab positive by take ( 5 ) 2 = 25 (-5)^2 = 25

Ok , then our final answer will be ( 5 2 ) 2 = ( 1 ) 2 ( 5 + 2 ) 2 = 1 ( 5 + 2 ) \sqrt{( - 5 - \sqrt{2})^2} = \sqrt{(-1)^2 (5 + \sqrt{2})^2} = | -1( 5 + \sqrt{2})|

Note - Square root of a value means its magnitude

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago
Toby M
Jun 21, 2020

Squaring both sides, we get 27 + 5 8 = a 2 + 2 a b + b 27 + 5 \sqrt8 = a^2 + 2a \sqrt{b} + b . Equating the surd (radical) parts, we get that 5 8 = 2 a b 5 \sqrt8 = 2a \sqrt b . However, 8 = 2 2 × 2 = 2 2 \sqrt8 = \sqrt{2^2 \times 2} = 2 \sqrt{2} , so 5 ( 2 2 ) = 2 a b 5 2 = a b 5(2\sqrt2)= 2a \sqrt{b} \Rightarrow 5 \sqrt2 = a \sqrt{b} . Therefore b = 2 b = \boxed{2} .

Maths Perera
Apr 8, 2014

U don't need to work out the whole equation. The first step, and only step, would be to simplify 5 root 8. That becomes 10 root 2. 2 is your answer (b)

sqrt(27+5sqrt(8))=a+sqrt(b).......... squaring both side................ 27+5sqrt(8)=a2+b+2asqrt(b).......... ==>>it gives ............ 27+10sqrt(2)=a2 +b+2zsqrt(b).............. comparing both side................ a2+b=27 and 2asqrt(b)=10sqrt(2)................ which gives .... a=25 and b=2 Ans.

good idea, but a little hard to read... by the way, a=5, not 25

Harshal Sheth - 7 years, 2 months ago

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