Squares, Cubes And A Toddler

Let a , b , c , d a,b,c,d and e e be consecutive positive integers such that b + c + d b+c+d is a perfect square and a + b + c + d + e a+b+c+d+e is a perfect cube. Find the smallest possible value of c c .


The answer is 675.

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3 solutions

Parth Lohomi
Apr 10, 2016

a , b , c , d a,b,c,d and e e are consecutive positive integers such that b + c + d = 3 c b+c+d = 3c and a + b + c + d + c = 5 c a+b+c+d+c = 5c .

Now 3 3 c 3 2 3 c 3 c 3 | 3c \Rightarrow 3^2 | 3c \because 3c is a perfect square as given that b + c + d b+c+d is a perfect square ).

3 c 3 5 c 3 3 5 c 5 c \Rightarrow 3 | c \Rightarrow 3 | 5c \Rightarrow 3^3 | 5c \because 5c is a perfect square.

Also 5 5 c 5 3 5 c 5 2 c 5 | 5c \Rightarrow 5^3 | 5c \Rightarrow 5^2 | c

3 3 5 2 c \therefore 3^3 5^2 | c or equivalently 675 c 675 | c

675 \therefore 675 is the smallest possible value of c c .

QED.

Moderator note:

This solution isn't complete as yet. Observe that you decided to put the condition of 3 c 3 \mid c into 3 c 5 c 3 \mid c \mid 5c , but on the other hand didn't decide to put the condition of 5 c 5 \mid c into 5 c 3 c 5 \mid c \mid 3c .

Put another way, all that you've found is a necessary condition. You have not found a sufficient condition, nor have you demonstrated that 675 does indeed satisfy the conditions.

E.g. We could have claimed that 15 c 15 \mid c , but that doesn't tell us that the answer is 15.

Tom Engelsman
Apr 15, 2020

Let b + c + d = 3 a + 6 = p 2 b+c+d = 3a + 6 = p^2 and a + b + c + d + e = 5 a + 10 = q 3 a+b+c+d+e = 5a + 10 = q^3 , which yield:

a + 2 = c = p 2 3 a+2 = c = \frac{p^2}{3} or q 3 5 \frac{q^3}{5} (i).

If (i) is true, then we require p = 3 w 5 x , q = 3 y 5 z p = 3^{w}5^{x}, q = 3^{y}5^{z} for the smallest possible w , x , y , z N . w,x,y,z \in \mathbb{N}. Substituting these expressions into (i) now produces:

p 2 3 = q 3 5 3 2 w 5 2 x 3 = 3 3 y 5 3 z 5 3 2 w 1 5 2 x = 3 3 y 5 3 z 1 \frac{p^2}{3} = \frac{q^3}{5} \Rightarrow \frac{3^{2w}5^{2x}}{3} = \frac{3^{3y}5^{3z}}{5} \Rightarrow 3^{2w-1}5^{2x} = 3^{3y}5^{3z-1} (ii).

Setting the corresponding exponents equal to one another next gives:

2 w 1 = 3 y w = 2 , y = 1 2w-1 = 3y \Rightarrow w =2, y =1

2 x = 3 z 1 x = z = 1 2x = 3z-1 \Rightarrow x = z =1

Hence, p = 3 2 5 1 = 45 p = 3^25^1 = 45 and q = 3 1 5 1 = 15 c = 4 5 2 3 = 1 5 3 5 = 675 . q = 3^15^1 = 15 \Rightarrow c = \frac{45^2}{3} = \frac{15^3}{5} = \boxed{675}.

Rajdeep Brahma
Apr 11, 2017

b+c+d=3c & a+b+c+d+e=5c
since we want to get the lowest possible value for c,let c=(3^x)X(5^y)(since 3&5 must divide c). So,3c=3^(x+1)X(5^y) is a square.
Therefore 2I(x+1) & 2Iy
5c is cube.So 3Ix & 3I(y+1).
So least possible value of x=3 & y=2.
So.c=(3^3)X(5^2)=675(ANSWER).




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