String Swing

A string of length L L swings clockwise in a circle in the x y xy plane, with one end fixed at the origin. A ball is attached to the other end of the string as shown below. The ball maintains a constant speed v 0 v_0 as it swings.

When the string is at an angle θ \theta with respect to the negative x x axis (see graphic), the ball detaches from the string and flies through the air on a standard kinematic trajectory. The ball eventually lands on the positive x x axis at position x f x_f .

Which value of θ \theta (in degrees) maximizes x f x_f ?

Details and Assumptions:
- Gravity g = 10 m/s 2 g = 10 \, \text{m/s}^2 in the negative y y direction
- L = 1 m L = 1 \, \text{m}
- v 0 = 5 m/s v_0 = 5 \, \text{m/s}


The answer is 62.9172.

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2 solutions

Gabriel Chacón
Feb 2, 2019

The ball will follow the equations of projectile motion:

x = L cos θ + v 0 sin θ t y = L sin θ + v 0 cos θ t 1 2 g t 2 \begin{aligned} x&=&-L\cos{\theta}+v_0\sin{\theta}\space t \\ y&=&L\sin{\theta}+v_0\cos{\theta}\space t-\frac{1}{2}gt^2 \end{aligned}

We solve for t t when y = 0 y=0 :

t + = v 0 cos θ + v 0 2 cos 2 θ + 2 g L sin θ g t_+=\dfrac{v_0\cos{\theta}+\sqrt{v_0^2\cos^2{\theta}+2gL\sin{\theta}}}{g}

We plug this result for the value of t t in the first equation to get the x-coordinate:

x = L cos θ + v 0 sin θ v 0 cos θ + v 0 2 cos 2 θ + 2 g L sin θ g x=-L\cos{\theta}+v_0\sin{\theta}\dfrac{v_0\cos{\theta}+\sqrt{v_0^2\cos^2{\theta}+2gL\sin{\theta}}}{g}

To maximize x ( θ ) x(\theta) we should solve d x d θ = 0 \dfrac{dx}{d\theta}=0 , which at first looks like it requires numerical treatment. So I decided to find the maximum using Geogebra (indulgence, please!). This is the plot and the numerical result I got:

Thanks for the solution. I also solved numerically

Steven Chase - 2 years, 4 months ago

Thank you for posting the problem! It is an original case for testing conventional knowledge in physics, with the added challenge of finding the right value.

Gabriel Chacón - 2 years, 4 months ago

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@Gabriel Chacón Sir. Your solution is awesome. I understand very quickly. Sir please can you suggest me good problems book in physics???

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 9 months ago

Indeed, as the initial speed approaches infinity, the result coincides with conventional wisdom

Steven Chase - 2 years, 4 months ago

I missed the L cos θ -L\cos\theta .

Rohan Shinde - 2 years, 4 months ago

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I too bro, didn't notice that x f x_f was on positive x axis.

Harsh Poonia - 2 years, 3 months ago
K T
Jun 29, 2019

First tried analytically, found an expression for x(θ) but setting its derivative to 0 got too messy (see pic below).

Then used Excel entering the formulas:

x 0 = L cos θ x_0=-L\cos\theta

y 0 = L sin θ y_0=L\sin\theta

v x 0 = v 0 sin θ v_{x0}=v_0\sin\theta

v y 0 = v 0 cos θ v_{y0}=v_0\cos\theta

t = ( v y 0 + v y 0 2 + 2 g y 0 ) / g t=(v_{y0}+\sqrt{v_{y0}^2+2gy_0})/g

x ( t ) = x 0 + v x 0 t x(t)=x_0+v_{x0} t

and tried values for θ. θ = 62.917 θ=\boxed{62.917} gave the largest value for x.

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