Stupid fence

Calculus Level 5

It was okay when each section looked like f 0 ( x ) = 1 x 2 f_0(x)=1-x^2 (the ground, y = 0 y=0 ), but the fence worker keeps coming back and turning them into f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) f_{n+1}(x)+f_n(x) if f n f_n was f 0 ( f n 1 ( x ) ) f_0(f_{n-1}(x)) and they'd come n n times. They said it was for my protection, and made me pay for the fence posts. Each post was only tall enough to support one section up to its highest spike. If I have to keep buying new ones to fit these heights, I might as well prepare for whatever the worker is trying for. What height will the highest spike on my fence approach, the maximum value of lim n f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) \lim\limits_{n\to\infty}f_{n+1}(x)+f_n(x) ?


The answer is 1.25.

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2 solutions

Ryan S
Apr 13, 2020

The derivative at a maximum is zero. d d x ( f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) ) = 0 \frac{d}{dx}(f_{n+1}(x)+f_n(x))=0

f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) f n ( x ) + f n ( x ) = 0 f_0^\prime(f_n(x))f_n^\prime(x)+f_n^\prime(x)=0

f n ( x ) ( f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) + 1 ) = 0 f_n^\prime(x)(f_0^\prime(f_n(x))+1)=0

f n ( x ) = 1 2 f_n(x)=\frac12 or f n ( x ) = 0 f_n^\prime(x)=0

If f n ( x ) = 0 f_n^\prime(x)=0 , f 0 ( f n 1 ( x ) ) f n 1 ( x ) = 0 f_0^\prime(f_{n-1}(x))f_{n-1}^\prime(x)=0

f n 1 ( x ) = 0 f_{n-1}(x)=0 or f n 1 ( x ) = 0 f_{n-1}^\prime(x)=0

Repeating the process shows it is possible for any a < n a< n that f a ( x ) = 0 f_a(x)=0 , or, when a = 0 a=0 is reached, f 0 ( x ) = 0 f_0^\prime(x)=0 where x = 0 x=0

f a ( x ) = 0 f n ( x ) = 0 f_a(x)=0\implies f_n(x)=0 or f n ( x ) = 1 f_n(x)=1 , because f 0 ( 0 ) = 1 f_0(0)=1 and f 0 ( 1 ) = 0 f_0(1)=0

The maximum is either 1.25 1.25 if f n ( x ) = 1 2 f_n(x)=\frac{1}{2} , or 1 1 If f n ( x ) = 1 f_n(x)=1 or f n ( x ) = 0 f_n(x)=0

You haven't defined what you mean by f ( x ) f(x) . Also, elaborate what you mean by "The prior means x = 0 x=0 , ...". How did you get those conditions?

Atomsky Jahid - 1 year, 1 month ago

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Wow, I can't believe I didn't catch that, thank you.

Ryan S - 1 year, 1 month ago

Okay, I fixed the solution.

Ryan S - 1 year, 1 month ago
Kyle Otstot
Apr 21, 2020

Goal: maximize L = lim n f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) L = \lim\limits_{n \to \infty} f_{n + 1}(x) + f_{n}(x) .

d d x [ f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) ] = 0 \frac{d}{dx} [f_{n + 1}(x) + f_{n}(x)] = 0

d d x [ f n + 1 ( x ) ] + d d x [ f n ( x ) ] = 0 \frac{d}{dx} [f_{n + 1}(x)] + \frac{d}{dx} [f_{n}(x)] = 0

Since f n + 1 ( x ) = f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) f_{n+1}(x) = f_{0}(f_{n}(x)) by definition, it follows that d d x [ f n + 1 ( x ) ] = f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) f n ( x ) \frac{d}{dx} [f_{n + 1}(x)] = f_{0}'(f_{n}(x)) f_{n}'(x) .

Thus, d d x [ f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) ] = f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) f n ( x ) + f n ( x ) = f n ( x ) [ f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) + 1 ] = 0 \frac{d}{dx} [f_{n + 1}(x) + f_{n}(x)] = f_{0}'(f_{n}(x)) f_{n}'(x) + f_{n}'(x) = f_{n}'(x)[ f_{0}'(f_{n}(x)) + 1] = 0 .

Now we can solve f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) + 1 = 0 f_{0}'(f_{n}(x)) + 1 = 0 to get that f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) = 1 f_{0}'(f_{n}(x)) = -1 .

Since f 0 ( x ) = 1 x 2 f_{0}(x) = 1 - x^2 , we can use f 0 ( x ) = 2 x f_{0}'(x) = -2x to solve for f n ( x ) f_{n}(x) .

f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) = 2 ( f n ( x ) ) = 1 f n ( x ) = 1 2 f_{0}'(f_{n}(x)) = -2(f_{n}(x)) = -1 \Rightarrow f_{n}(x) = \frac{1}{2} .

Now let's solve for f n + 1 ( x ) f_{n+1}(x) .

f n + 1 ( x ) = f 0 ( f n ( x ) ) = f 0 ( 1 2 ) = 1 ( 1 2 ) 2 = 3 4 f_{n+1}(x) = f_{0}(f_{n}(x)) = f_{0}(\frac{1}{2}) = 1 - (\frac{1}{2})^2 = \frac{3}{4} .

Therefore, L = lim n f n + 1 ( x ) + f n ( x ) = 3 4 + 1 2 = 5 4 L = \lim\limits_{n \to \infty} f_{n + 1}(x) + f_{n}(x) = \frac{3}{4} + \frac{1}{2} = \frac{5}{4} , or 1.25 1.25 .

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