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One day I decide I want to see how high I can throw a rock. I throw a rock straight up in the air and it has a speed of 30 m/s 30~\mbox{m/s} when it leaves my hand. I then realize this was foolish, as I need to get out of the way before the rock comes back down and hits me on the head. How many seconds do I have to move out of the way after I throw the rock?

Details and assumptions

  • The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s 2 -9.8~\mbox{m/s}^2 .
  • Treat me as a point mass.


The answer is 6.12.

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31 solutions

Ajay Maity
Dec 24, 2013

First of all, consider the point where the rock leaves the boy's hand as point A A and let the highest point where the velocity of the rock becomes equal to 0 0 be point B B .

The time required for the rock to travel from A A to B B is always equal to the time required for the rock to travel from B B to A A . This is valid only when other resistive forces are neglected, i.e. when air resistance is neglected.

So, we calculate the time required for the rock to travel from A A to B B .

initial velocity = velocity at A A = u u = 30 30 m/s

final velocity = velocity at B B = v v = 0 0

acceleration = acceleration due to gravity = a a = 9.8 -9.8 m/s/s

So, by Newton's first equation of motion,

v = u + a t v = u + at

0 = 30 + ( 9.8 ) t 0 = 30 + (-9.8)t

t = 30 9.8 t = \frac{30}{9.8}

t = 3.061 t = 3.061 sec

Hence, the total time for the rock to travel back to the same point is 2 t = 2 × 3.061 = 6.122 2t = 2 \times 3.061 = 6.122 sec

That's the answer!

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lalita verma - 7 years, 3 months ago

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago

just wat i did.. this is way easy

Shakthi Janardhanan - 7 years, 4 months ago

6.12 correct!

Lê Văn Phu - 7 years, 3 months ago

6.12

Niaz Khan - 7 years, 3 months ago

6.1224

Pervez Karim - 7 years, 3 months ago

very nice + understandable explanation Mr.Ajay. Well done! :)

Muhammad Kamal - 7 years, 3 months ago

nice explanation.. i doubt my answers because i'm just starting today

Jeric Mutya - 7 years, 2 months ago

:-) :-)

Waqas Cheema - 7 years, 2 months ago
Michael Thornton
Dec 24, 2013

Acceleration is equal to the change in velocity divided by the time taken:

a ( m / s 2 ) = v 1 ( m / s ) v 2 ( m / s ) t ( s ) a (m/s^2) = \frac{v_{1} (m/s) - {v_2} (m/s)}{t (s)}

If we imagine the rock's path, it makes sense to assume that's it's velocity will change from 30 m / s 30m/s to 0 m / s 0m/s as it travels upwards, and then 0 m / s 0m/s to 30 m / s -30m/s on it's way back down. Hence the change in velocity is 30 m / s 30m/s to 30 m / s = 60 m / s -30m/s = -60m/s . Given this, and given that the acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m / s -9.8m/s , we can plug some values into the acceleration formula:

9.8 m / s 2 = 60 m / s t ( s ) -9.8m/s^2 = \frac{-60m/s}{t (s)}

Now this is simply a case of rearranging the equation to calculate t t :

( 9.8 m / s 2 = 60 m / s t ( s ) ) × t ( s ) = (-9.8m/s^2 = \frac{-60m/s}{t (s)}) \times t (s) =

( 9.8 m / s 2 × t ( s ) = 60 m / s ) (-9.8m/s^2 \times t (s) = -60m/s) divide by 9.8 m / s 2 = -9.8m/s^2 = : ( t ( s ) = 60 m / s 9.8 m / s 2 ) = (t (s) = \frac{-60m/s}{-9.8m/s^2}) = 6.1224... = 60 9.8 6.1224... = \frac{-60}{-9.8}

The answer is 6.12 \boxed{6.12} !

go easily ...dont make the problem too complicated

Rushyanth Reddy - 7 years, 3 months ago

simple, solid reasoning and explaining... great!

Edward Jeremy Lo - 7 years, 5 months ago

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Thanks a lot Shivaji, I was not aware of that formula.

Michael Thornton - 7 years, 5 months ago

v=u+at

Pratham Bhatia - 7 years, 3 months ago

6.12

Okashaa Almas - 7 years, 3 months ago
Nahom Yemane
Jan 3, 2014

s = u t + 1 2 a t 2 s=ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2

s = 0 , u = 30 , a = g = 9.8 s=0, u=30, a=-g=-9.8

0 = 30 t 1 2 g t 2 0=30t-\frac{1}{2}gt^2

0 = t ( 30 1 2 g t ) 0=t(30- \frac{1}{2}gt)

t = 0 t=0 or ( 30 1 2 g t ) = 0 (30- \frac{1}{2}gt)=0

30 = 1 2 g t 30=\frac{1}{2}gt

t = 60 g = 60 9.8 = 6.12 ( 3 s . f ) t=\frac{60}{g}=\frac{60}{9.8}=\boxed{6.12} (3 s.f)

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago

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it's not required......

Sagnik Dutta - 7 years, 3 months ago

i did the same way

Sanjay Mathai - 7 years, 3 months ago

First consider the time it takes for the rock to reach peak height. At the top of the trajectory the velocity of the stone rock is 0 m/s.

By using the equation: t = v u a t = \frac{v-u}{a}

where:

  • v v is the final velocity

  • u u is the initial velocity

  • a a is the acceleration

  • t t is the time

Plugging in values of v = 0 v = 0 , u = 30 u=30 , a = 9.8 a=-9.8 , we get t = 0 30 9.8 = 3.06 s t = \frac{0-30}{-9.8} = 3.06s

It takes the same amount of time to fall as it does to rise, so double the previous answer to get the final answer of 6.12 s \boxed{6.12 s} to 3 s.f.

Many ways to answer the question, this was the first to occur to me.

Yours is the best written solution !How did you manage to write the solution so neatly.

Devarsh Ruparelia - 7 years, 4 months ago
Lira Zabin
Mar 14, 2014

t=2v/g

Rahma Anggraeni
May 6, 2014

Vertical Up Motion

v 0 = 30 m / s v_{0}=30 m/s

v t = 0 v_{t}=0

g = 9.8 m / s 2 g=9.8 m/s^{2}

Then..

v t = v 0 g t v_{t}=v_{0} - gt

30 = 9.8 t 30=9.8t

30 = 9.8 t 30=9.8t

t = 3.061 t=3.061

You just can double it, so the answer is 6.122 \boxed{6.122}

Vashishta Sharma
Mar 22, 2014

(time\quad of\quad flight)f=\frac { 2u }{ g } \ \Rightarrow \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad =\frac { 2*30 }{ 9.8 } \ \Rightarrow \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad =6.122sec

Sathi Nagi Reddy
Mar 11, 2014

We have to take time of flight which is 2*u/g. After substituting values we will get 6.122 sec

Rushyanth Reddy
Mar 7, 2014

time of flight (t=2u/g)

time of flight of a body which is projected vertically upward with a velocity 'u' is 2u/g.so time here the height of rock and the persons height are neglected.so now 60/9=6.1

Aravind Raj
Mar 2, 2014

it is given that initial velocity(u)=30m/s at the highest point velocity of the stone become zero so , V=0 and g=9.8 m/s^2 So, by Newton's first equation of motion, v=u+at 0=30-9.8t t=3.061s 2t=6.122

Yash Shukla
Feb 26, 2014

easiest method is:- time of flight=2u/g, which gives 6.122 directly

Pratham Bhatia
Feb 18, 2014

Here, for upward journey v=u+at and t could be found. Double this t as time upw. = time downw. .

Rajdeep Dhingra
Feb 18, 2014

to find time we use first equation of motion v=u+at a= -9.8 u= 30 v= 0 0= 30 - 9.8t t=30/9.8 t= 3.06 as time would be same T=2t=6.12sec

NoOr ul Huda
Feb 15, 2014

For the upward journey:

v=u+at

0=30-9.81t

t= 30/9.81 = 3.06 s

Time for upward travel= Time for downward travel = 3.06 s

Total time = 3.06 + 3.06 = 6.12 s

Giuseppe Rizzi
Feb 12, 2014

total-space=0 (space to go up - space to go down); s = v 0 × t 1 2 × g × t 2 s=v0 \times t-\frac{1}{2} \times g \times t^{2} Evidencing time: 0 = t × ( v 0 1 2 × g × t ) 0=t \times (v0-\frac{1}{2} \times g \times t) First solution: t=0 not acceptable; Second solution: t = 2 × v 0 g = 6 , 12 s t=2 \times \frac{v0}{g}= 6,12 s

Khaled Mohamed
Feb 9, 2014

for case 1: Vo= 30 m/s

V=0

V=Vo + gt ---> T1= 3.06 s---> (1)

Also: S=VoT + 1/2 gT^2 -----> S=45.918 m

For Case 2: Vo=0

S= VoT + 1/2gT^2 -----> T2 = 3.06 s

T = T1 + T2 = 6.12 s

Shahbaz Khan
Feb 8, 2014

vf=vi+at vi=30 vf=0 g=-9.8

Robert Fritz
Feb 7, 2014

I did these kind of questions frequently in physics last chapter. Since the rock moves up at 30m/s you just divide that by 9.8 to figure out when it hits 0 in terms of velocity. Then multiply that by two because gravity pulls the rock down at the same speed the rock was decreasing at which eventually becomes 30m/s after about 3 seconds. The first part of the process of throwing the rock was then flipped to become the 2nd process.

Sarayda Ltt
Jan 29, 2014

the answer is 6 s... 3 s when the rock reach the top and 3 s when the rock hit his head...

Lucky Khan
Jan 27, 2014

using 1st equation of motion, vf=vi+gt here vf= 0 and vi = 30 m/s and g = -9.8 m/s^2.... so actually the this t is from a single side so the total time will be 2t = 2(30/9.8) = 6.12 sec

Nicole Tan
Jan 11, 2014

time = 2 × V f V i g 2 \times \frac{Vf - Vi}{g}

V f V i g = 0 m / s 30 m / s 9.8 m / s 2 \frac{Vf - Vi}{g} = \frac{0 m/s - 30 m/s}{- 9.8 m/s^{2}}

You get 3.06122449 seconds, then multiply to two.

2 × 3.06122449 2 \times 3.06122449 = 6.122 seconds.

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago
Ashwani Kumar
Jan 9, 2014

900=20s s=45

45=30t-5txt t=6sec

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago
Mridul Gupta
Jan 8, 2014

Use Equation v=u+gt ; v=0 at highest point of trajectory so after solving we get t= 30/9.8 ; Now Double up this time to get the total time T=2*t = 6.12 sec

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago
Abhishek K S
Jan 7, 2014

Step 1 :V=u+at Step 2: 0=30+(-9.81*t) Step 3: It takes double the time for the ball to go up and to get to your head.

simply take the formula of projectile motion t=2usin(theta)/g where theta is the angle between throwing stone with the ground

Shivaji Ahir - 7 years, 5 months ago
Maneesh Dev
Jan 4, 2014

He has all the time till the stone reaches the point of projection ,

-We can get the time taken by the stone to get back from, T=2u/g we get T=6.120s by substituting the given values.

Prateek Gaur
Dec 30, 2013

It is given that initial velocity(u) is 30 m/s. We know that the acceleration due to gravity is -9.8 m/s^{2} The final velocity(v) will be 0. According to fist equation of motion, we have v = u+at 0 = 30+(-9.8t) {-30}/{-9.8})=t 3.06 = t

Now, the stone takes 3.06 seconds to reach to the top. It will take the same time to come down. So, 3.06+3.06=6.12 seconds

Muhammad Ali
Dec 26, 2013

6.12

First of all, You have to discover the time that the rock gets the higher point. So : V = V0-g.t =>

V = the final vecolity; V0 = the inicial velocity; g = gravity; t = time.

So : 30 = 0-9,8.t => T = approximately 3,06 s.

We have to know that the time the rock need top get the higher point,its the same time she falls to the ground. so t+t = 6,120s

Hope help You.

Danish Mohammed
Dec 24, 2013

Choose your coordinate axes such that the upward direction is the positive y axis and the origin is at the point of projection.

From the third equation of motion, we have,

v 2 v 0 2 = 2 g h v^2-v_{0}^2=2gh . . . (i) where v v is the final velocity, v 0 v_{0} is the initial velocity, g g is the acceleration due to gravity and h h is the height attained.

At the highest point of a vertically projected body, the velocity is zero. setting v = 0 v=0 and substituting in (i), we get,

h = v 0 2 2 g h=\frac{-v_{0}^2}{2g} . . . (ii)

Applying the second equation of motion to the downward motion, we have

h = v t + 1 2 g t 2 -h = vt+\frac{1}{2}gt^2 . . . (iii) where t t is time. The - sign is there in the left side as the displacement of the body is downwards.

For a vertically projected body, the time of ascent is equal to the time of descent. They are both equal to half of the time of flight. So, to obtain the time for which the rock stays in the air, it is easier to find the time of descent. When the body is descending the initial velocity becomes the final velocity of ascension i.e., v = 0 v=0 . Substituting in (iii) and rearraginging, we get,

t a 2 = 2 h g t_{a}^2=-\frac{2h}{g} . . . (iv) where t a t_{a} is the time of ascent. There's nothing wrong with the minus sign being on the right side as g g is negative. Substituting (ii) in (iv) we get,

t a = 2 v 0 2 2 g 2 = v 0 g t_{a}=\sqrt{\frac{2v_{0}^2}{2g^2}}=-\frac{v_{0}}{g} . The - sign appears as g is negative and x 2 = x \sqrt{x^2} = -x if x < 0 x<0 .

Then, time of flight is given by,

t f = 2 v 0 g t_{f}=\frac{-2v_{0}}{g}

Substituting v 0 = 30 m s 1 v_{0}=30 \mathrm{\, m \, s^{-1}} and g = 9.8 m s 2 g = -9.8 \mathrm{\, m \, s^{-2}} , we get,

t f = 6.120 s t_{f}=\boxed{6.120} \mathrm{\, s}

The problem can be solved by taking the axes in any other way; the answer obtained will be the same.

Budi Utomo
Dec 24, 2013

S = Vo.t + 1/2.g.t^2 ---> s = 0 + 1/2 .g.t^2 ---> vt = 0 + 1/2 .g.t^2 ---> vt = 1/2 .g.t^2 ---> v = 1/2.g.t ----> t = 2v/g ---> t = 2.30[m/s]/ 9,8 [m/s^2] = 60/9,8 s = 6,122448979.... = 6,12 s. Answer : 6.12E-0

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