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Probability Level pending

You roll a fair six sided die continuously until the total equals N N (or greater) and then stop.

What is the probability that when you are done, that the total will equal exactly N N for very large N N .

i.e.

Let P ( N ) = P(N) = Probability that eventually the total will equal exactly N N .

If:

lim N P ( N ) = a b \lim_{N \rightarrow \infty} P(N) = \frac{a}{b}

where a a and b b are coprime numbers. What is a + b a+b ?


The answer is 9.

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1 solution

Geoff Pilling
Oct 23, 2016

For N = 1 N=1 , clearly P ( 1 ) = 1 6 P(1) = \frac{1}{6} .

For N = 2 N=2 , you can roll a 2 2 with a 1 6 \frac{1}{6} chance, or two 1 1 's with a 1 36 \frac{1}{36} chance.

P ( 2 ) = ( 1 / 6 ) P ( 1 ) + 1 / 6 = 7 / 36 P(2) = (1/6)*P(1) + 1/6 = 7/36

In general,

P ( N ) = ( 1 6 ) ( P ( N 6 ) + P ( N 5 ) + P ( N 4 ) + P ( N 3 ) + P ( N 2 ) + P ( N 1 ) ) P(N) = (\frac{1}{6})(P(N-6)+P(N-5)+P(N-4)+P(N-3)+P(N-2)+P(N-1))

Where P ( 0 ) = 1 P(0) = 1 , and P ( N ) = 0 P(N) = 0 for N < 0 N<0

Solving,

lim N P ( N ) = 2 7 \lim_{N \rightarrow \infty} P(N) = \frac{2}{7}

2 + 7 = 9 2+7 = \boxed9

I think you should provide more explanation for the equations. Specifically, explain that you are conditioning on the very last total.

Also, can you explain why the limit is 2 7 \frac{2}{7} ? It seems to work out numerically, but is there a reason for the exact value?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

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