Sum of a Triple

Algebra Level 4

a , b a, b and c c are positive real numbers greater than or equal to 1 satisfying

a b c = 100 , a lg a b lg b c lg c 10000. \begin{aligned} abc & =100,\\ a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c} & \geq 10000. \\ \end{aligned}

What is the value of a + b + c a + b + c ?

Details and assumptions :

  • lg \lg refers to log base 10.


The answer is 102.

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25 solutions

Vitor Terra
May 20, 2014

Since a , b , c 1 a,b,c \geq 1 , it follows that lg a , lg b , lg c 0 \lg a, \lg b, \lg c \geq 0 . Take log at both sides of the equality given: a b c = 100 abc = 100 , lg a b c = lg 100 \lg abc = \lg 100 , lg a + lg b + lg c = 2 ( I ) \lg a + \lg b + \lg c = 2 \quad (I)

Take log at both sides of the inequality given (we can do that because the base of the log (10) is greater than 1 hence is an increasing function, and the log function is injective) : a lg a b lg b c lg c 10000 a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c} \geq 10000 lg ( a lg a b lg b c lg c ) lg 10000 \lg (a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c}) \geq \lg 10000 , lg a lg a + lg b lg b + lg c lg c 4 \lg a^{\lg a} + \lg b^{\lg b} + \lg c^{\lg c} \geq 4 ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 4 ( I I ) (\lg a)^2 + (\lg b)^2 + (\lg c)^2 \geq 4 \quad (II)

Squaring both sides of (I) leads to: ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 + 2 ( lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c ) = 4 (\lg a)^2 + (\lg b)^2 + (\lg c)^2 + 2(\lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c) = 4 , ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 = 4 2 ( lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c ) (\lg a)^2 + (\lg b)^2 + (\lg c)^2 = 4 - 2(\lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c) . Compare that to (II) and it follows that: 4 2 ( lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c ) 4 4 - 2(\lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c) \geq 4 2 ( lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c ) 0 - 2(\lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c) \geq 0 , lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c 0 \lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c \leq 0 But lg a , lg b , lg c 0 \lg a, \lg b, \lg c \geq 0 , therefore lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c 0 \lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c \geq 0 , which implies: lg a lg b + lg a lg c + lg b lg c = 0 \lg a \lg b + \lg a \lg c + \lg b \lg c = 0 lg a , lg b \lg a, \lg b and lg c \lg c can't be all equal to zero, since lg a + lg b + lg c = 2 \lg a + \lg b + \lg c = 2 . Thus, two numbers among lg a , lg b , lg c \lg a, \lg b, \lg c are equal to zero and the other is equal to 2. Without loss of generality, let lg a = lg b = 0 \lg a = \lg b = 0 and lg c = 2 \lg c = 2 . It follows that a = b = 1 a = b = 1 and c = 100 c = 100 , therefore a + b + c = 102 a + b + c = 102 .

[Punctuation edits - Calvin]

This is the only solution to state why we can take logarithms on both sides of an inequality. While the validity of the step seems almost obvious, it's nice to see that the conditions have been checked.

Several solutions were careless with the inequality in the 2nd condition, and wrote it as an equality (without proof as yet).\

Also, note that log a 2 \log a^2 is not the same as ( log a ) 2 (\log a)^2 . The latter can be written as log 2 a \log ^2 a .

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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I've often run into log [ log ( x ) ] \log[\log(x)] , so the notation log 2 x \log^2x is ambiguous.

Grant Larsen - 5 years, 5 months ago

Hell of a good solution......

Arnav Das - 5 years, 9 months ago

Admirable!

Tala Al Saleh - 5 years, 11 months ago

This solution needs a little bit of formatting (e.g. putting each equation/inequality on a separate line) to be the perfect solution.

Ali Ismaeel - 5 years, 6 months ago
Riccardo Zanotto
May 20, 2014

We take the lg \lg in the first equation and we get lg a + lg b + lg c = 2 \lg a+\lg b+\lg c=2 In the second equation we write a , b , c a,b,c as 1 0 lg a 10^{\lg a} etc, so we have 1 0 lg 2 a + lg 2 b + lg 2 c 1 0 4 10^{\lg^2a+\lg^2b+\lg^2c}\ge10^4 , which means lg 2 a + lg 2 b + lg 2 c 4 \lg^2a+\lg^2b+\lg^2c\ge4 But lg 2 a + lg 2 b + lg 2 c = = ( lg a + lg b + lg c ) 2 2 ( lg a lg b + lg b lg c + lg c lg a ) \lg^2a+\lg^2b+\lg^2c=\\=(\lg a+\lg b+\lg c)^2-2(\lg a\lg b+\lg b\lg c+\lg c\lg a) . Hence we have, substituting the sum and dividing by 2 -2 , lg a lg b + lg b lg c + lg c lg a 0 \lg a\lg b+\lg b\lg c+\lg c\lg a\le0 But since lg x 0 x 1 \lg x\ge0 \ \forall x\ge1 , we must have WLOG lg a = lg b = 0 \lg a=\lg b=0 , i.e. ( a , b , c ) = ( 1 , 1 , 100 ) (a,b,c)=(1,1,100)

Yang Conan Teh
May 20, 2014

Let a = 1 0 x , b = 1 0 y , c = 1 0 z , a=10^{x}, b=10^{y}, c=10^{z}, so that x , y , z 0 x, y, z\ge 0 . We know that a b c = 1 0 x + y + z = 100 , abc=10^{x+y+z}=100, so x + y + z = 2. x+y+z=2. Also that a lg a = 1 0 x lg 1 0 x = 1 0 x 2 , a^{\lg a}=10^{x\lg 10^x}=10^{x^2}, so b lg b = 1 0 y 2 b^{\lg b}=10^{y^{2}} , c lg c = 1 0 z 2 c^{\lg c}=10^{z^{2}} , Therefore, a lg a b lg b c lg c = 1 0 x 2 + y 2 + z 2 10000. a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c}=10^{x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}}\ge 10000. So x 2 + y 2 + z 2 4 x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}\ge 4 .

Now 4 = 2 2 = ( x + y + z ) 2 = x 2 + y 2 + z 2 + 2 x y + 2 x z + 2 y z . 4=2^{2}=(x+y+z)^{2}=x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}+2xy+2xz+2yz. Since x 2 + y 2 + z 2 4 , 2 x y + 2 x z + 2 y z 0. x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}\ge 4, 2xy+2xz+2yz\le 0. But since x , y , z 0 , x,y,z\ge 0, the equality must hold, i.e. 2 x y + 2 x z + 2 y z = 0 , 2xy+2xz+2yz=0, so two of x , y , z x,y,z must be 0 0 , and the other one must be 2 2 .

So { x , y , z } = { 2 , 0 , 0 } , \{x,y,z\}=\{2,0,0\}, { a , b , c } = { 100 , 1 , 1 } . \{a,b,c\}=\{100,1,1\}. Hence in any case a + b + c = 100 + 1 + 1 = 102. a+b+c=100+1+1=102. Q.E.D.

Well solution.I did the same.

Hemel Sarkar - 5 years, 11 months ago
Jon Haussmann
May 20, 2014

Let $x = \log {10} a$, $y = \log {10} b$, and $z = \log {10} c$. Then $a = 10^x$, $b = 10^y$, and $c = 10^z$. The inequalities $a$, $b$, $c \ge 1$ tell us that $x$, $y$, $z \ge 0$, and the given equations $abc = 100$ and $a^{\log {10} a} b^{\log {10} b} c^{\log {10} c} \ge 10000$ tell us that $10^{x + y + z} = 100$ and $10^{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} \ge 10000$, so $x + y + z = 2$ and $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \ge 4$.

Since $x$, $y$, $z \ge 0$ and $x + y + z = 2$, we have that $0 \le x \le 2$. Similarly, $0 \le y \le 2$ and $0 \le z \le 2$. Hence, x ( 2 x ) 0 , y ( 2 y ) 0 , z ( 2 z ) 0. ( ) x(2 - x) \ge 0, \quad y(2 - y) \ge 0, \quad z(2 - z) \ge 0. \quad (*) Adding all these inequalities, we get 2 x + 2 y + 2 z x 2 + y 2 + z 2 . 2x + 2y + 2z \ge x^2 + y^2 + z^2. Then $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \le 2(x + y + z) = 4$. But $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \ge 4$, so we must have $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 4$, and we must have equality in each inequality in $(*)$. This means each of $x$, $y$, and $z$ is equal to 0 or 2. Since $x + y + z = 2$, two of $x$, $y$, and $z$ must be equal to 0, and the third must be equal to 2. Then two of $a$, $b$, and $c$ must be equal to $10^0 = 1$, and the third must be equal to $10^2 = 100$, so $a + b + c = 1 + 1 + 100 = 102$.

Wei Liang Gan
May 20, 2014

Taking lg of the first equation gives us l g a + l g b + l g c = l g 100 = 2 lg\ a + lg\ b + lg\ c = lg\ 100 = 2 and squaring gives us ( l g a ) 2 + ( l g b ) 2 + ( l g c ) 2 + 2 ( l g a ) ( l g b ) + 2 ( l g b ) ( l g c ) + 2 ( l g a ) ( l g c ) = 4 (lg\ a)^2+(lg\ b)^2+(lg\ c)^2 + 2(lg\ a)(lg\ b) + 2(lg\ b)(lg\ c) + 2(lg\ a)(lg\ c) = 4 . Taking lg of the second equation gives us ( l g a ) 2 + ( l g b ) 2 + ( l g c ) 2 = 4 (lg\ a)^2+(lg\ b)^2+(lg\ c)^2 = 4 and subtracting the two equations gives 2 ( l g a ) ( l g b ) + 2 ( l g b ) ( l g c ) + 2 ( l g a ) ( l g c ) = 0 2(lg\ a)(lg\ b) + 2(lg\ b)(lg\ c) + 2(lg\ a)(lg\ c) = 0 .

Note that a , b , c 1 l g a , l g b , l g c 0 a,b,c \geq 1 \Rightarrow lg\ a,lg\ b,lg\ c \geq 0 . If at least 2 of l g a , l g b , l g c lg\ a, lg\ b, lg\ c are positive then 2 ( l g a ) ( l g b ) + 2 ( l g b ) ( l g c ) + 2 ( l g a ) ( l g c ) > 0 2(lg\ a)(lg\ b) + 2(lg\ b)(lg\ c) + 2(lg\ a)(lg\ c) > 0 since at least 1 term is positive and the others are non-negative. They also can't all be 0 so the only possibility is that exactly 2 are 0 and since their sum is 2 the third must be 2. Therefore, a + b + c = 1 0 l g a + 1 0 l g b + 1 0 l g c = 1 0 2 + 1 0 0 + 1 0 0 = 102 a+b+c = 10^{lg\ a}+10^{lg\ b}+10^{lg\ c} = 10^2+10^0+10^0 = 102

Andy Chen
May 20, 2014

Let x = lg(a), y = lg(b), and z = lg(c). Note that:

a = 1 0 l g ( a ) = 1 0 x a = 10^{lg(a)} = 10^x

b = 1 0 y b = 10^y

c = 1 0 z c = 10^z

Thus, the first equation gives:

100 = a b c = 1 0 x 1 0 y 1 0 z = 1 0 x + y + z 100 = abc = 10^x 10^y 10^z = 10^{x+y+z}

Taking both sides log base 10:

2 = x + y + z 2 = x + y + z

4 = x 2 + y 2 + z 2 + 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) 4 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2(xy + yz + zx)

From the second equation:

10000 a l g ( a ) b l g ( b ) c l g ( c ) = ( 1 0 l g ( a ) ) l g ( a ) ( 1 0 l g ( b ) ) l g ( b ) ( 1 0 l g ( c ) ) l g ( c ) 10000 \le a^{lg(a)} b ^{lg(b)} c^{lg(c)} = (10^{lg(a)})^{lg(a)} (10^{lg(b)})^{lg(b)} (10^{lg(c)})^{lg(c)}

10000 ( 1 0 x ) x ( 1 0 y ) y ( 1 0 z ) z = 1 0 x 2 + y 2 + z 2 10000 \le (10^x)^x (10^y)^y (10^z)^z = 10^{x^2 + y^2 + z^2}

4 x 2 + y 2 + z 2 4 \le x^2 + y^2 + z^2

Subtracting these two equations yields:

0 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) 0 \ge 2(xy+ yz+zx)

0 x y + y z + z x 0 \ge xy + yz + zx (*)

Note that since a , b , c 1 a,b,c \ge 1 , x , y , z 0 x,y,z \ge 0 . Thus, for (*) to be true, every term must be 0. This means that at least two of x, y, z must be 0. WLOG let x = 0 and y = 0. Then, z = 2 - x - y = 2. Thus, a = 1, b = 1, c = 100, so:

a + b + c = 1 + 1 + 100 = 102 a+b+c = 1 + 1 +100 = \boxed{102}

K J
May 20, 2014

(1) The given inequality, with a bit of algebra (change x lg x x^{\lg x} to 1 0 lg 2 x 10^{\lg^2 x} and collect the powers), becomes lg 2 a + lg 2 b + lg 2 c 4 \lg^2 a+\lg^2 b+\lg^2 c≥4 .

(2) The given equality is lg a + lg b + lg c = 2 \lg a + \lg b + \lg c = 2 .

Substitute lg a , lg b , lg c \lg a, \lg b, \lg c by x , y , z x, y, z respectively. Notice that now (1) describes a sphere and (2) is a plane. Notice also that we must have x , y , z 0 x, y, z \geq 0 to satisfy a , b , c 1 a, b, c \geq 1 . This is a trivial problem, though a drawing might be helpful.

The only points ( x , y , z ) (x, y, z) that satisfy the constraints are permutations of ( 2 , 0 , 0 ) (2, 0, 0) . Thus a = 100 , b = 1 , c = 1 a=100, b=1, c=1 and a + b + c = 102 a+b+c=102 .

Why use a lot of "algebra" when geometry, as it is here, can so easily be employed?

(2) is a plane should really read along the lines: (2) is a triangle with vertices (2,0,0), (0,2,0) and (0,0,2) in an affine plane

... and seconded - a trivial problem.

Jalaluddin Abdullah - 5 years, 11 months ago
Javier Gutierrez
May 20, 2014

We rename a = 1 0 x a = 10^x , b = 1 0 y b = 10^y and c = 1 0 z c = 10^z . Then x = lg a x = \lg a , y = lg b y = \lg b and z = lg c z = \lg c . Also, x , y , z 0 x, y, z \geq 0

The conditions can be written: a b c = ( 1 0 x ) ( 1 0 y ) ( 1 0 z ) = 100 abc = (10^x)(10^y)(10^z) = 100 , a lg a b lg b c lg c = ( 1 0 x ) x ( 1 0 y ) y ( 1 0 z ) z 10000 a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c} = (10^x)^x (10^y) ^y (10^z)^z \geq 10000

Simplifying: 1 0 x + y + z = 1 0 2 10^{x + y + z} = 10^2 , 1 0 x 2 + y 2 + z 2 1 0 4 10^{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} \geq 10^4

Then, we have: x + y + z = 2 x + y + z = 2 , x 2 + y 2 + z 2 4 x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \geq 4

If we square the first expression, then we have: x + y + z + 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) = 4 x + y + z + 2(xy + yz + zx) = 4 , x + y + z = 4 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) x + y + z = 4 - 2(xy + yz + zx)

But x 2 + y 2 + z 2 4 x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \geq 4 and x + y + z = 4 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) x + y + z = 4 - 2(xy + yz + zx) so: 4 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) 4 4 4 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) 4 - 2(xy + yz + zx) \geq 4 \Rightarrow 4 - 4 \geq 2(xy + yz + zx) \Rightarrow 0 2 ( x y + y z + z x ) 0 x y + y z + z x 0 \geq 2(xy + yz + zx) \Rightarrow 0 \geq xy + yz + zx

Also, x , y , z 0 x, y, z \geq 0 , then x y = 0 , y z = 0 , z x = 0 xy = 0, yz = 0, zx = 0 .

Wlog, suppose x y z x \leq y \leq z . If x = 0 x = 0 but y , z 0 y, z \neq 0 then y z 0 yz \neq 0 , x = y = 0 x = y = 0 , and z = 2 z = 2 .

But a = 1 0 x = 1 0 0 = 1 , b = 1 0 y = 1 0 0 = 1 a = 10^x = 10^0 = 1, b = 10^y = 10^0 = 1 and c = 1 0 z = 1 0 2 = 100 c = 10^z = 10^2 = 100 , then a + b + c = 1 + 1 + 100 = 102 a + b + c = 1 + 1 + 100 = 102 .

Ariel Lanza
May 20, 2014

Knowing that if x y 1 x\geq y\geq 1 than log x log y \log x \geq \log y Taking log from both sides of both the equations we get: { log a + log b + log c = 2 ( log a ) 2 + ( log b ) 2 + ( log c ) 2 4 \begin{cases} \log a + \log b + \log c=2 \\ (\log a)^2+(\log b)^2+(\log c)^2 \geq 4 \\ \end{cases} the second equation becomes: ( log a + log b + log c ) 2 2 ( log a log b + log b log c + log a log c ) 4 (\log a + \log b + \log c)^2-2(\log a \log b+\log b \log c+\log a \log c) \geq 4 using the first equation we get: 2 ( log a log b + log b log c + log a log c ) 0 -2(\log a \log b+\log b \log c+\log a \log c) \geq 0 ( log a log b + log b log c + log a log c ) 0 (\log a \log b+\log b \log c+\log a \log c) \leq 0 Knowing that any log has to be positive we get: ( log a log b + log b log c + log a log c ) = 0 (\log a \log b+\log b \log c+\log a \log c) = 0 This means that at least two of the logs are 0 0 . Knowing that the sum of the logs has to be 2 2 we have that the third log equals 2 2 .

Therefore the three numbers are: 1 1 , 1 1 and 100 100 . And their sum is: 102 \fbox{102}

Shailendra Garg
May 20, 2014

a lg a b lg b c lg c 10000 1 0 ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 10000 ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 4 \begin{array}{l} a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c} \ge 10000 \\ 10^{(\lg a)^2 + (\lg b)^2 + (\lg c)^2 } \ge 10000 \\ \left( {\lg a} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg b} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg c} \right)^2 \ge 4 \\ \end{array} again a b c = 100 abc = 100 lg a + lg b + lg c = 2 \lg a + \lg b + \lg c = 2 Now ( lg a + lg b + lg c ) 2 = ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 + 2 ( lg a . lg b + lg b . lg c + lg c . lg a ) \left( {\lg a + \lg b + \lg c} \right)^2 = \left( {\lg a} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg b} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg c} \right)^2 + 2\left( {\lg a.\lg b + \lg b.\lg c + \lg c.\lg a} \right) ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 = 4 2 ( lg a . lg b + lg b . lg c + lg c . lg a ) \left( {\lg a} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg b} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg c} \right)^2 = 4 - 2\left( {\lg a.\lg b + \lg b.\lg c + \lg c.\lg a} \right) ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 4 \left( {\lg a} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg b} \right)^2 + \left( {\lg c} \right)^2 \le 4 hence among lg a , lg b a n d lg c \lg a,\lg b{\rm{ }}and\lg c two of them are zero hence a + b + c = 102 a + b + c = 102

Todor Nicolae
May 20, 2014

From a b c = 100 lg a + lg b + lg c = 2 abc=100 \Rightarrow \lg{a}+\lg{b}+\lg{c}=2 \Rightarrow lg a 2 + lg b 2 + lg c 2 + 2 lg a lg b + 2 lg a lg c + 2 lg b lg c = 4 \lg{a}^2+\lg{b}^2+\lg{c}^2+2\lg{a} \lg{b}+2\lg{a} \lg{c}+2\lg{b} \lg{c}=4

From a lg a b lg b c lg c 10000 a^{\lg{a}} b^{\lg{b}} c^{\lg{c}} \geq 10000 \Rightarrow lg a 2 + lg b 2 + lg c 2 4 \lg{a}^2+\lg{b}^2+\lg{c}^2 \geq 4 that is 4 + 2 lg a lg b + 2 lg a lg c + 2 lg b lg c 4 4+2\lg{a} \lg{b}+2\lg{a} \lg{c}+2\lg{b} \lg{c} \leq 4 \Rightarrow 2 lg a lg b + 2 lg a lg c + 2 lg b lg c 0 2\lg{a} \lg{b}+2\lg{a} \lg{c}+2\lg{b} \lg{c} \leq 0

But a , b , c 1 lg a , lg b , lg c 0 a, b, c \geq 1 \Rightarrow \lg{a}, \lg{b}, \lg{c} \geq 0

The inequality 2 lg a lg b + 2 lg a lg c + 2 lg b lg c 0 2\lg{a} \lg{b}+2\lg{a} \lg{c}+2\lg{b} \lg{c} \leq 0 is true when all terms lg a lg b , lg a lg c , lg b lg c \lg{a} \lg{b}, \lg{a} \lg{c}, \lg{b} \lg{c} are zero i.e. at least two from lg a , lg b , lg c \lg{a}, \lg{b}, \lg{c} are equal with zero. That means that if we take lg b = lg c = 0 \lg{b}=\lg{c}=0 then b = c = 1 b=c=1 and because a b c = 100 abc=100 , a a must be equal with 100 100 .

Of course same result if a , b , c a,b,c are interchanged. So the final result is a + b + c = 102 a+b+c=102 .

Patryk Lipski
May 20, 2014

Let x = lg a x = \lg a , y = lg b y = \lg b , and z = lg c z = \lg c . Then

lg a b c = x + y + z = 2 \lg abc\ = x + y +z = 2 , and

lg a lg a b lg b c lg c = x 2 + y 2 + z 2 4 \lg {a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c}} = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \geq 4 .

( x + y + z ) 2 = x 2 + y 2 + z 2 + 2 ( x y + x z + y z ) = 4 (x + y + z)^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2(xy + xz + yz) = 4 , so either

x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = 4 x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 4 and x y + x z + z y = 0 xy + xz + zy = 0 or

x 2 + y 2 + z 2 > 4 x^2 + y^2 + z^2 > 4 and x y + x z + z y < 0 xy + xz + zy < 0 .

But a , b , c 1 a, b, c \geq 1 , so x , y , z 0 x, y, z \geq 0 and x y + x z + y z 0 xy + xz + yz \geq 0 . For x y + x z + y z xy + xz + yz to equal 0 0 , all three terms must be 0 0 which is only possible if at least two of x , y , z x, y, z are 0 0 . So let x , y = 0 x, y = 0 in which case a , b = 1 a, b = 1 and c = 100 c = 100 . 1 + 1 + 100 = 102 1 + 1 + 100 = 102 .

Ante Qu
May 20, 2014

Assume WLOG that a>=b>=c.

The first equation states, abc = 100. Solving for a, we have a=100/(bc). Since a,b,c >= 1, we have that a <= 100. Similarly, if we solved for b and c, we'd also have b <= 100 and c <= 100.

Now divide the second equation by the first equation twice. We have a^(lg a - 2) b^(lg b - 2) c^ (lg c - 2) >= 1. Note that in order for the product of 3 factors to be at least 1, at least 1 of the factors must be at least 1. (in other words, if xyz >= 1, at least one of x>= 1, y>=1, or z>=1 must be true)

Since we assumed at the beginning that a is biggest (a >=b>=c ), we must have that a^(lg a - 2) >=1. Since a >= 1, either lg a - 2 >= 0 or a = 1. In the first case, a >= 100, which means a=100, and b=c=1. In the second case, since a>=b>=c , a=b=c=1, which is not possible because 1 1 1 is not 100. Therefore the only possible triple (ordered by size) is (100,1,1), and the sum is 100+1+1=102.

Silvio Sergio
May 20, 2014

from abc=100: abc=100 => lg(a)+lg(b)+lg(c)=2

from a^lg(a)b^lg(b)c^lg(c)>=10000: lg(a^lg(a)b^lg(b)c^lg(c))>=4 lg(a^lg(a)) + lg(b^lg(b) + lg(c^lg(c)) >= 4 lg(a)^2 + lg(b)^2 + lg(c^2) >= 4 (lg(a) + lg(b) + lg(c))^2 - 2(lg(a)lg(b)+lg(a)lg(b)+lg(b)lg(c)) >=4 4 - 2(lg(a)lg(b)+lg(alg(b)+lg(b)lg(c)) >= 4 (lg(a)lg(b)+lg(a)lg(c)+lg(b)lg(c)) <= 0 because lg(a),lg(b),lg(c) are non negative, (lg(a)lg(b)+lg(a)lg(b)+lg(b)lg(c)) = 0 no more then one of a,b,c can be >1, otherwise one of the addends is greater than 0. So a=b=1 and c=100

Aakash Kansal
May 20, 2014

Let a=10^x, b=10^y, c=10^z NOW USING ABC=100! WE GET X+Y+Z=2 ALSO A,B,C>=1 so x,y,z>=0 Also equation 2 given in question lead to x^2+y^2+z^2=4 So now (x+y+z)^2is also 4 so xy+yz+zx=0 With all non negative so two among three are 0 So letx=0,y=0,z=2 Then A=1 B=1 C=100 so A+B+C= 102

Calvin Lin Staff
May 13, 2014

Let A = lg a , B = lg b , C = lg c A= \lg a, B = \lg b, C = \lg c . Since a , b , c 1 a, b, c \geq 1 , we have A , B , C 0 A, B, C \geq 0 . Since a b c = 100 abc = 100 , taking log base 10 on both sides gives A + B + C = 2 A+B+C = 2 . Since a lg a b lg b c lg c 10000 a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c} \geq 10000 , taking log base 10 on both sides gives lg ( a lg a ) + lg ( b lg b ) + lg ( c lg c ) 4 A 2 + B 2 + C 2 4 \lg (a^{\lg a}) + \lg( b^{\lg b} ) + \lg (c^{\lg c}) \geq 4 \Rightarrow A^2 + B^2 + C^2 \geq 4 .

Then A 2 + B 2 + C 2 4 = ( A + B + C ) 2 A^2 + B^2 + C^2 \geq 4 = (A + B + C)^2 A 2 + B 2 + C 2 A 2 + B 2 + C 2 + 2 A B + 2 A C + 2 B C \Rightarrow A^2 + B^2 + C^2 \geq A^2 + B^2 + C^2+ 2AB + 2AC + 2BC A B + A C + B C 0 \Rightarrow AB + AC + BC \leq 0 . But since A B , B C AB, BC and C A CA are all non-negative, A B + B C + C A 0 AB+BC+CA \geq 0 . Hence, A B + B C + C A = 0 AB+BC+CA = 0 , which implies that A B = 0 , B C = 0 , C A = 0 AB=0, BC=0, CA=0 . Thus at least 2 of A , B A, B and C C are 0. Without loss of generality, we set B = C = 0 B=C=0 , which gives A = 2 0 0 = 2 A = 2 - 0 - 0 = 2 . Thus a = 1 0 2 = 100 , b = 1 0 0 = 1 , c = 1 0 0 = 1 a = 10^2 = 100, b = 10^0 = 1, c = 10^0 = 1 , and a + b + c = 102 a+b+c = 102 .

Devansh Agrawal
Jun 25, 2015

Since it says is greater than or equal to 1 (this is very uncommon - usually its strictly greater than) immediately I think of 'lets see what happens when a and b are equal to 1'. -> thus c = 100

I worked it out, and it worked :D

Jeffrey Robles
May 20, 2014

Get the logarithmic expression equivalent to the first equation as well as the logarithmic expression equivalent to the second (this is valid because the left and the right side of the inequality are both equal or greater than one.) Then, { lg a + lg b = 2 lg c , ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 + ( lg c ) 2 4 \begin {cases} \lg a +\lg b = 2- \lg c, \\ (\lg a)^2 + (\lg b)^2 + (\lg c)^2 \geq 4 \\ \end {cases} .

Squaring the first equation yields ( lg a ) 2 + ( lg b ) 2 2 ( lg a ) ( lg b ) = 4 (\lg a)^2 + (\lg b)^2-2 \cdot (\lg a) \cdot (\lg b)= 4 . Applying this to the second equation yields 2 ( lg a ) ( lg b ) 0 2 \cdot (\lg a) \cdot (\lg b) \geq 0 . Then, 1 0 lg a lg b 1 10^ {{\lg a}{\lg b}} \geq 1 , or equivalently a b 1 ab \geq 1 . But under the assumption that a,b, and c are all greater than or equal to one, then it follows that both a and b are 1, and so c=100. Therefore, * a + b+ c = 102 *.

What is wrong with this solution? One tipoff that the solution is wrong, is that he fails to characterize all the equality cases.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago
Samuel Marks
May 20, 2014

An important observation is that 10000 = 10 0 2 10000=100^2 . This gives us the idea to set a = 100 a=100 so that b , c = 1 b,c=1 , and a lg a b lg b c lg c = 10 0 2 × 1 0 × 1 0 = 10000. a^{\lg a}b^{\lg b}c^{\lg c}=100^2 \times 1^0 \times 1^0=10000.

To show that there are no other solutions (except for by symmetry), we consider a value for a less than 100 which we shall call 100 m 100-m . We must then change the value(s) of b, c, or both. We begin with changing only the value of b: To satisfy a b c = 100 abc=100 , we have a = 100 m a=100-m and b = 100 100 m b=\frac{100}{100-m} . (c is still equal to 1.) Thus we have a lg a b lg b c lg c = ( 100 m ) lg ( 100 m ) ( 100 100 m ) lg 100 100 m ( 1 ) = a^{\lg a}b^{\lg b}c^{\lg c}=(100-m)^{\lg (100-m)}(\frac{100}{100-m})^{\lg \frac{100}{100-m}}(1)= ( 100 m ) lg ( 100 m ) ( ( 100 100 m ) lg 100 ( 100 100 m ) lg ( 100 m ) ) = ( 100 100 m ) 2 < 10 0 2 (100-m)^{\lg (100-m)}(\frac{(\frac{100}{100-m})^{\lg 100}}{(\frac{100}{100-m})^{\lg (100-m)}})=(\frac{100}{100-m})^{2}<100^2 Therefore, if we "transfer" some amount m away from a and increase b (or c by symmetry), our conditions are not met. This can be shown similarly when a is decreased and b and c are both increased. Therefore, our only solution is ( a , b , c ) = ( 100 , 1 , 1 ) (a,b,c)=(100,1,1) , or permutations. This gives us our answer of 100 + 1 + 1 = 102 100+1+1=\boxed{102} .

Kookies Gee
May 20, 2014

The key is that a b c=100

So a,b,c can be

  1. 100 1 1

  2. 50 2 1

  3. 25 4 1 or 25 2 2

  4. 20 5 1

  5. 10 10 1 or 10 5 2

However,

  • 50^{log(50)} is about 770,

  • 25^log(25) is about 90,

  • 2^log(2) is about 1.2,

  • 5^log(5) is about 3

  • 10^log(10) is 10

  • 4^log(4) is about 2

  • 1^log(1) is 1

  • 100^log(100) is 10000 !

So the only combination of a, b and c that satisfies the second restriction is

  • 100 1 1 !!!
Richard Levine
Oct 16, 2016

Rewrite a^lg(a)b^lg(b)c^lg(c)>=10000 as a^lg(a)b^lg(b)c^lg(c)>=100^lg(100), because 10000=100^2=100^lg(100). Since a^lg(a) and b^lg(b) are 1 when a=1 and b=1, the solution is completed when c=100, yielding a+b+c = 102.

Nick Cavanna
Dec 7, 2015

assume WLOG that a b c 1 a\geq b\geq c\geq 1 , then lg a lg b l g c 0 \lg a\ge\lg b\ge lg c\ge 0 .

Then ( a b c ) lg a a lg a b lg b c lg c 10 , 000 (abc)^{\lg a}\geq a^{\lg a} b^{\lg b} c^{\lg c}\geq 10,000 , which implies that 10 0 lg a 10 , 000 100^{\lg a}\geq 10,000 , and so lg a 2 \lg a\geq 2 . Thus a 100 a\geq 100 , and a=100, b=1, c=1, so the sum is 102 \boxed{102}

Jim DiCarlo
Dec 7, 2015

Think about this geometrically.

We agree on two facts:

(log a)^2 + (log b)^2 + (log c)^2 >= 4 and log a + log b + log c = 2

let log a = x, log b = y, and log c = z. note: x, y, z >= 0.

The first inequality describes all points outside a sphere of radius 2 (=sqrt(4)). The second equation defines a plane passing through the points (0, 0, 2), (0, 2, 0) and (2, 0, 0). These three points are the only points on the plane which are 2 units away from the origin. All other points on the plane (assuming x, y, and z >= 0) are closer.

The corresponding values of a, b, and c at these three points are (1, 1, 100), (1, 100, 1) and (100, 1, 1).

a + b + c =102.

Gabriel Ravel
May 20, 2014

Observe that x l o g x x^{log x} is smaller than x x if x x is a positive divisor of 100 which is less than 10.

Without loss of generality let a b c a \geq b \geq c . Then observe that because a b c = 100 abc=100 , at most 2 of a , b , c a,b,c are larger than 10.

This only occurs when a = b = 10 a=b=10 . It is easy to check that this does not satisfy the problem requirements.

Now we know that only a 10 a \geq 10 , it suffices to check a = 20 , 25 , 50 , 100 a=20,25,50,100 to conclude that a = 100 a=100 .

But there is a quicker way, in order for the answer to be unique we know immediately that only a = 100 a=100 can work because as a a increases so does the overall product. (Also it is clear that none of the sums are the same)

So wrapping up, we see that a = 100 , b = 1 , c = 1 a=100, b=1, c=1 and a + b + c = 102 a+b+c=102

Erick Sumargo
May 20, 2014

abc = 100 * 1, consume that ab=100 and c=1

Then, log a + log b = 2, log b = 2 - log a ..................(1)

(log a)^2 + (log b)^2 + (log c)^2 = 4

Since c = 1, log c = log 1 = 0 So that,

(log a)^2 + (log b)^2 = 4 ...............(2)

Substitute equation (1) into equation (2), we get:

(log a)^2 + (2-log a)^2 = 4 (log a)^2 + 4-4 log a + (log a)^2 = 4 (log a)^2 - 2 log a = 0

Factorize it and we get a = 100 or a = 1 Take a = 1 then substitute its value into equation (1) and we get the value b = 100.

Then, a + b + c = 1 + 100 + 1 = 102

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