Sum of real roots!

Algebra Level 4

x 2 + 7 x 5 = 5 x 3 1 \large x^2+7x-5=5\sqrt{x^3-1}

Find the sum of real roots of the equation above.


The answer is 8.000.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
May 16, 2020

x 2 + 7 x 5 = 5 x 3 1 x 2 + x + 1 + 6 ( x 1 ) = 5 ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 ) 5 ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 ) + 6 ( x 1 ) = 0 ( x 2 + x + 1 2 x 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 3 x 1 ) = 0 \begin{aligned} x^2+7x-5 & = 5\sqrt{x^3-1} \\ x^2 + x + 1 + 6(x-1) & = 5\sqrt{(x-1)(x^2+x+1)} \\ (x^2 + x + 1) - 5\sqrt{(x-1)(x^2+x+1)} + 6(x-1) & = 0 \\ \left(\sqrt{x^2+x+1} - 2\sqrt{x-1} \right)\left(\sqrt{x^2+x+1} - 3\sqrt{x-1} \right) & = 0 \end{aligned}

{ x 2 + x + 1 = 4 ( x 1 ) x 2 3 x + 5 = 0 No real roots x 2 + x + 1 = 9 ( x 1 ) x 2 8 x + 10 = 0 With real roots \implies \begin{cases} x^2 + x + 1 = 4(x-1) & \implies x^2 - 3x + 5 = 0 & \implies \small \red{\text{No real roots}} \\ x^2 + x + 1 = 9(x-1) & \implies x^2 \blue{ -8}x + 10 = 0 & \implies \small \blue{\text{With real roots}} \end{cases}

By Vieta's formula sum of real roots is ( 8 ) = 8 -(\blue{-8}) = \boxed 8 .

@Curver Kwan , your requested answer is also wrong. Because 8 = 4 + 4 + 8 3 = 0 + 64 + 0 3 = 0 + 0 + 8 3 3 = . . . 8 = 4 + \sqrt 4 + \sqrt[3]8 = 0 + \sqrt{64} + \sqrt[3]0 = 0 + \sqrt 0 + \sqrt[3]{8^3} = ... , there are infinitely many solutions.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year ago

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Hmmm, it seems that you spelled my username wrong. I am @Culver Kwan , not @Curver Kwan.

Culver Kwan - 1 year ago

@Curver Kwan , I have changed the question for you. Don't change it. I am a moderator.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year ago

@Culver Kwan good problem!

Mahdi Raza - 1 year ago

Squaring and simplifying we get

x 4 11 x 3 + 39 x 2 70 x + 50 = 0 ( x 2 8 x + 10 ) ( x 2 3 x + 5 ) = 0 x^4-11x^3+39x^2-70x+50=0\implies (x^2-8x+10)(x^2-3x+5)=0 .

Now in the equation x 2 8 x + 10 = 0 x^2-8x+10=0 the discriminant is 8 2 4 × 1 × 10 = 24 > 0 8^2-4\times 1\times 10=24>0 . Hence the roots are real.

In the equation x 2 3 x + 5 = 0 x^2-3x+5=0 , the discriminant is 3 2 4 × 1 × 5 = 11 < 0 3^2-4\times 1\times 5=-11<0 . Hence the roots are nonreal.

So, there are only two real roots of the given equation, whose sum is 8 \boxed 8 (by Vieta's formula.)

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