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Algebra Level 2

Let a b = 1 ab=1 and define

P = a a + 1 + b b + 1 and Q = 1 a + 1 + 1 b + 1 . P=\frac{a}{a+1}+\frac{b}{b+1}\quad \text{ and }\quad Q=\frac{1}{a+1}+\frac{1}{b+1}.

What can we say about P P and Q ? Q?

P > Q P>Q P < Q P<Q P = Q P=Q Answer is dependent on the values of a a and b b

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19 solutions

Qi Huan Tan
Aug 22, 2014

P = a a + a b + b b + a b = 1 1 + b + 1 1 + a = Q P=\frac{a}{a+ab}+\frac{b}{b+ab}=\frac{1}{1+b}+\frac{1}{1+a}=Q

p=a/(a+1)+b/(b+1) =(b/b) a/(a+1)+(a/a) b/(b+1) because a/a=b/b=1 =ab/(ab+b)+ab/(ab+a) =1/(1+b)+1/(1+a) because (ab=1) =Q

Naimatullah Baloch - 6 years, 9 months ago

take L.C.M. of P and Q and compare them.they will be equal.

jaswanth varma - 6 years, 8 months ago

but given question is different

Raviteja Vajrapu - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Qi Huan Tan has merely substituted ab for 1 in the expression for Q

Dan Stillit - 6 years, 9 months ago

okay i understood

Raviteja Vajrapu - 6 years, 9 months ago

asume that they are equal :p

Aakash Ghodke - 6 years, 8 months ago

P = a + 1 1 a + 1 + b + 1 1 b + 1 P = \frac{a + 1 - 1}{a + 1} + \frac{b + 1 -1}{b + 1}

P = 2 Q P = 2 - Q

P > Q P>Q

Where is the mistake?

sandeep Rathod - 6 years, 6 months ago

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Mmmm but if p=1 q=1 then

p=2-q

1=2-1

You should take into account that ab=1 (Sorry for my bad english)

Erika Ramos - 6 years ago

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Thanks for the guidance

sandeep Rathod - 5 years, 12 months ago

what if a=-1 ?

Muhammad Salem - 3 years, 4 months ago

you have given the solution for a different question!!!!!!!!!

Nitin Kumar - 1 year, 5 months ago

Let ab=1. Define ...it should be Let a and b = 1, Define to make the answer P=Q

Cosme Planos - 6 years, 9 months ago
Julian Andrews
Aug 24, 2014

Beyond the quick ways to show that P and Q are equal, you can show that both P and Q are 1 making the equality is trivial.

P = a a + 1 + b b + 1 = a a + 1 + 1 / a 1 / a + 1 = a a + 1 + 1 a + 1 = a + 1 a + 1 = 1 P = \frac{a}{a+1} + \frac{b}{b+1} = \frac{a}{a+1} + \frac{1/a}{1/a+1} = \frac{a}{a+1} + \frac{1}{a+1} = \frac{a+1}{a+1} = 1

Q = 1 a + 1 + 1 b + 1 = 1 a + 1 + 1 ( 1 / a ) + 1 = 1 a + 1 + a a + 1 = a + 1 a + 1 = 1 Q = \frac{1}{a+1} + \frac{1}{b+1} = \frac{1}{a+1} + \frac{1}{(1/a)+1} = \frac{1}{a+1} + \frac{a}{a+1} = \frac{a+1}{a+1} = 1

P= (1\ 1+1/a )+1/ (1+1/b). Now 1+1/a may be greater than or equal to less than a+1. similarly 1+1/b may be greater than or equal to or less than 1+b. Hence the answer is wrong

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Gopinathan Chorangath - 6 years, 9 months ago

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I don't follow your explanation. I've double checked my calculations and can't see any mistakes. Could you point out a step in my first calculation that you think is incorrect?

Julian Andrews - 6 years, 9 months ago

There is no presumption that ab=1 in this problem Write a comment or ask a question...

Gopinathan Chorangath - 6 years, 9 months ago

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The first words at the top of the problem are "Let ab = 1"...

Julian Andrews - 6 years, 9 months ago

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you are right as there is the misunderstanding of the word "let" and "if"

Gopinathan Chorangath - 6 years, 9 months ago

What about when a=0 and b=0 then P=0 and Q=2 . This also shows the given answer P= Q is wrong for any set of values of a and b. Write a comment or ask a question...

Gopinathan Chorangath - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Since ab = 1 we know that a and b can't be 0.

Julian Andrews - 6 years, 9 months ago
Anand T N
Aug 24, 2014

b=1/a ; substitute b =1/a in P and Q . We will get same equation.

ab=1 or a=1/b; or a+1= (1+b)/b; or b/(b+1) = 1/(a+1);

Therefore , P = a/(a+1) + 1/(a+1); (Substituting second term) or P = 1 Similarly from ab = 1 we can get 1/(b+1) = a/(1+a);

So Q = 1/(a+1) + a / (1+a) (Substituting the second term) Simplifying Q=1 Therefore P=Q

Avik Biswas - 6 years, 8 months ago
Saurabh Mallik
Aug 28, 2014

We just need to substitute the variables to solve the question.

a b = 1 ab=1

P = a a + 1 + b b + 1 P=\frac{a}{a+1}+\frac{b}{b+1}

Q = 1 a + 1 + 1 b + 1 Q=\frac{1}{a+1}+\frac{1}{b+1}

Expanding P P :

P = a a + 1 + b b + 1 P=\frac{a}{a+1}+\frac{b}{b+1}

Substituting 1 = a b 1=ab :

P = a a + a b + b b + a b P=\frac{a}{a+ab}+\frac{b}{b+ab}

P = a a ( 1 + b ) + b b ( 1 + a ) P=\frac{a}{a(1+b)}+\frac{b}{b(1+a)}

P = 1 1 + b + 1 1 + a = Q P=\frac{1}{1+b}+\frac{1}{1+a}=Q

Therefore, P = Q P=Q ( P P and Q Q are same).

Thus, the answer is: P = Q \boxed{P=Q}

Sanjeet Raria
Aug 22, 2014

Taking, Q=(b/b) (1/a+1)+(a/a)(1/b+1), using the fact that ab=1 we find that P=Q. I first liked the problem and then reshared it but as i researched the problem i find that it's cursed with the fact that it can easily be solved by putting values of a and b. So i un- shared it then.

just change it to... PROVE that P=Q

Ray Flores - 6 years, 9 months ago
Saurabh Kumar
Sep 27, 2014

by solving using LCM we can get the answer easily.

take P/Q=(a(b+1)+b(a+1))/b+1+a+1 =ab+a+ab+b/a+b+2 =a+b++2ab/a+b+2 =a+b+2(1)/a+b+2 =a+b+2/a+b+2 =1 so P/Q=1 =>P=Q

Jan Saliling
Sep 15, 2014

P and Q are equal because they have the same product.

Karim Shaféiq
Sep 14, 2014

P=Q=(a+b+2) / (a+b+2) =1

Darkstar Aovik
Sep 3, 2014

P=a/(a+1) +b/(b+1) =a(b+1)+b(a+1)/(a+1)(b+1) =ab+a+ab+b/ab+a+b+1 =1+a+1+b/1+a+b+1 =a+b+2/a+b+2 =1 now, Q=1/(a+1)+1/(b+1) =b+1+a+1/(a+1)(b+1) =a+b+2/ab+a+b+1 =a+b+2/a+b+1+1 =a+b+2/a+b+2 =1 so, P=Q

P= (1)/ (1)+1 + (1)/(1)+1 Q= 1/(1)+1 + 1/(1)+1

Sadaf Shakoor
Aug 29, 2014

For P, p=a/(a+1) + b/(b+1) , p=a(b+1)+b(a+1)/(a+1)(b+1) , p=ab+a+ab+b/(a+1)(b+1) , p=ab+ab+a+b/(a+1)(b+1) , p=2ab+a+b/(a+1)(b+1) , since , ab =1 put the value of ab =1 in given equation ... p=2(1)+a+b/(a+1)(b+1),

then Q, Q= 1/(a+1) + 1(b+1) , Q=b+1+a+1/(a+1)(b+1) , Q=2+a+b/(a+1)(b+1) , so the answer is .. P=Q

Pijush Biswas
Aug 29, 2014

P=1,Q=1 When, a=1,b=1

Shovon Pramanik
Aug 29, 2014

P-Q=0 or, P=Q

just assuming the value a and b....

Rahul Shete
Aug 24, 2014

The most simple way is to substitute any values of a and b in both equations...in this case you get same answer of both...

you should take care that your answer doesn't come infinity

Rahul Shete - 6 years, 9 months ago
Krishna Garg
Aug 24, 2014

Since ab =1 therefore value of a & b are 1( 1X1 for a & b +1) Substituting these vvalue for expressions P & Q gives values as 1 therefore P = Q nswer.

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Muzzammal Alfath
Aug 22, 2014

p=q= (a+b+2)/(a+1)(b+1)

Hansraj Sharma
Aug 21, 2014

after solve p=\frac { 2+a+b }{ (a+1)(b+1) }
Q=\frac { 2+a+b }{ (a+1)(b+1) } so P=Q

just multiply the first component of expression of P by "b" in numerator and denominator and the second component of P by "a" in numerator and denominator and you will get an expression which is equal to Q

sumit kr - 6 years, 9 months ago

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