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Algebra Level 3

log 2 ( log 2 x ( log 2 y ( 2 1000 ) ) ) = 0 \large \log_2(\log_{2^x}(\log_{2^y}(2^{1000}))) = 0

If x x and y y are positive integers satisfying the equation above, then find the sum of all possible values of x + y x+y .


The answer is 881.

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2 solutions

We require that

log 2 x ( log 2 y ( 2 1000 ) ) = 1 log 2 y ( 2 1000 ) = 2 x \large\log_{2^{x}}(\log_{2^{y}}(2^{1000})) = 1 \Longrightarrow \log_{2^{y}}(2^{1000}) = 2^{x}

( 2 y ) 2 x = 2 1000 y × 2 x = 1000. \large \Longrightarrow (2^{y})^{2^{x}} = 2^{1000} \Longrightarrow y \times 2^{x} = 1000.

Now since 1000 = 2 3 × 5 3 1000 = 2^{3} \times 5^{3} we can have x = 1 , 2 , 3 , x = 1,2,3, which corresponds to respective values for y y of 500 , 250 , 125. 500, 250, 125.

Thus the desired sum of possible values for x + y x + y is 501 + 252 + 128 = 881 . 501 + 252 + 128 = \boxed{881}.

Moderator note:

Yes, the crux of this problem is simply applying the properties of indices correctly: ( 2 a ) b = 2 a × b (2^a)^b = 2^{a \times b} . Nicely done.

Bonus question: with another unknown positive integer z z . Find the value of x + y + z x+y+z such that the equation below is fulfilled.

log 2 ( log 2 x ( log 2 y ( log 2 z ( 2 1000 ) ) ) ) = 0 \large \log_2(\log_{2^x}(\log_{2^y} (\log_{2^z} (2^{1000})))) = 0

Re Bonus question: Using a similar method, we end up with the equation

z × 2 y 2 x = 1000. \large z \times 2^{y*2^{x}} = 1000.

Given the prime factorization of 1000 1000 , and the fact that x , y 1 , x,y \ge 1, we can only have y 2 x = 1 2 1 = 2 , y*2^{x} = 1*2^{1} = 2, which makes z = 2 × 5 3 = 250. z = 2 \times 5^{3} = 250.

Thus x + y + z = 1 + 1 + 250 = 252. x + y + z = 1 + 1 + 250 = 252.

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 1 month ago

for all users who are saying that x=0 can also be include in solution, there is a line in question that x and y are positive integers. and also x=0 can't give value while taking log

Dhirendra Singh - 6 years, 1 month ago

Good work.followed same procedure as yours.

shivamani patil - 6 years ago

i am stop here x*y=500 and 252 not correct answer

Patience Patience - 5 years, 1 month ago

I think ans should be 4680

Nilesh Rao - 4 years, 11 months ago

By solving I am getting x*y=1000

Nilesh Rao - 4 years, 11 months ago

Answer has to be 1881, why can't we take x=0 case. Is " 0 " not considered as positive integer.?

Kiran Bk - 6 years, 1 month ago

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If we try x=0, then we take l o g 1 ( l o g 2 y ( 2 1000 ) ) log_1 (log_{2^y} (2^{1000})) . l o g 1 x log_1 x cannot return a number because if l o g 1 x = y log_1 x = y , then 1 y = x 1^y=x which only works if x=1. Also, y could be an infinite number of cases. We see here that there would be no argument returned and thus the answer would not be 0.

Sean Engelstad - 6 years, 1 month ago

No 0 is not a positive neither a negative no.

Shashanka Indri - 6 years, 1 month ago

0 is a base element to decide if a number is negative or positive. It is neither negative nor positive integer.

Dhirendra Singh - 6 years, 1 month ago
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Jun 9, 2019

The problem simplifies to:

log 2 y 2 1000 = 2 x 1000 y = 2 x \log_{2^y}{2^{1000}}=2^x \Rightarrow \dfrac{1000}{y}=2^x

Remember that y y and 2 x 2^x has to be a factor of 1000 1000 . So, we have 1000 = 2 3 × 5 3 1000=2^3\times5^3 . So, x = 1 , 2 , 3 x=1,2,3 satisfy the given equation. After gaining the subsequent values of y y as 500 , 250 , 125 500,250,125 , we just add them all up.

x + y = 500 + 250 + 125 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 881 x+y=500+250+125+3+2+1=881

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