Tension in a Uniform Thread!

A uniform flexible chain of mass m m and length L ( π R 2 ) L (\leq \frac{\pi R}{2}) rests on a fixed smooth cylindrical surface of radius R R such that one end A A of the chain is at the top of the cylinder while the other end B B is free. The chain is held stationary by a horizontal thread P A PA as shown in the figure. Calculate the Tension ( T ) (T) in the thread.

Assume α = L R \alpha = \dfrac L R .

sin 2 α α ( m g ) \frac{\sin^2 \alpha}{\alpha} (mg) None of These sin 2 α 2 α ( m g ) \frac{\sin^2 \alpha}{2\alpha} (mg) 2 sin α α ( m g ) \frac{2\sin \alpha}{\alpha} (mg) sin 2 α / 2 α / 2 ( m g ) \frac{\sin^2 \alpha/2}{\alpha/2} (mg)

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4 solutions

Rahul Badenkal
Jun 19, 2015

Consider a tiny part of the chain, from stationary condition we have

T ( θ + δ θ ) + λ R g s i n ( θ ) δ θ = T ( θ ) \displaystyle T(\theta + \delta \theta)+\lambda R g sin(\theta) \delta \theta=T(\theta)

d T d θ = λ R g s i n ( θ ) \displaystyle \frac{dT}{d\theta}=-\lambda R g sin(\theta)

T = λ R g c o s ( θ ) + C \displaystyle T=\lambda R g cos(\theta)+C

we know that T=0 when θ = L R \displaystyle \theta = \frac{L}{R} so C = λ R g c o s ( θ ) C=-\lambda R g cos(\theta)

and, finally, tension in the thread is equal to that in the chain at the highest point

F = T ( θ = 0 ) = λ R g ( 1 c o s ( α ) ) = m g s i n 2 ( α 2 ) α 2 \displaystyle F=T(\theta=0)=\lambda R g (1-cos(\alpha))=mg \frac{sin^{2}(\frac{\alpha}{2})}{\frac{\alpha}{2}}

θ \theta is measured from the top of the cylinder.

Next time use \sin for sin θ \sin \theta and \mathrm{d} for d θ \mathrm{d}\theta . Cheers!

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago

Oh I assumed the chain didn’t have tension 😂

Rohan Joshi - 4 months, 1 week ago
Aditya Sky
Mar 21, 2016

L L must be equal to π 2 R \frac{\pi}{2} \cdot R and not π 2 R \leqslant \frac{\pi}{2} \cdot R as, if L π 2 R L \leqslant \frac{\pi}{2} \cdot R , then we won't be able to make a perfect substitution sin ( π 2 ) = L R \sin(\frac{\pi}{2})\,=\,\frac{L}{R} .

The solution is very simple. If you follow the Golden Rule,then the virtual work done by this force T - (dA=Tds) will be equal to the change in the potential energy dU of the small piece of the rope with the mass m ds/L. transfered from the point B to the point A . Hence dA = Tds= dU=mgds R/L (1 - cos L/R). And T= mgR/L (1- cos L/R).

Can you please specify what is d A \mathrm{d}A and T d s T\mathrm{d}s ?

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago

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dA is an elementary work done by the force T on the infinite small (virtual) displacement ds. That is why we use the evident equation dA= Tds.

Сергей Кротов - 5 years, 9 months ago

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OK.... Thanks. You used Work Energy Theorem right(that Golden Rule)?

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago

So, how can T d A T - \mathrm{d}A be a force?

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago

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