Consider all ordered triples of positive real numbers ( a , b , c ) such that a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 2 5 ( a b + b c + c a ) . To 3 decimal places, what is the minimum value of
3 a b c a + b + c ?
It should be clear that
a
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b
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c
doesn't satisfy the given condition, which is why the answer is not 3.
You will likely need to use a calculator to evaluate the final expression.
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It's a nice problem with a nice solution idea. But a=b=c gives an answer of 3, right? So shouldn't the problem be "The answer is not 3"?
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Thanks! That is right. I had lost the ability to do arithmetic. I've updated it accordingly.
I had entered 4.071 and it showed that I solved it... But the answer is 4.124...how is this possible??
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you might have done something good to someone in your past life....:D
For decimals, we have a slight leeway which accepts a range of answers.
How the rating of the problems done on brilliant? can any problem can be given the rating?
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The easiest way is to set a suitable topic and level for your problem.
Nice solution. I got it right though.. I just don't understand why u didn't put the condition. It would have saved me a lot of time and work??????????
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If you are referring to the condition of a + b + c = 1 , it is a skill to recognize when we can homogenize problems in such a way.
This is not a unique condition. For example, we could also use a b c = 1 , and derive the solution in a similar way.
What is the discriminant for a general cubic equation?
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I refer you to Wikipedia- Discriminant of cubic .
For higher degree polynomials with roots r i , the discriminant is defined as a n 2 n − 2 ∏ ( r i − r j ) 2 .
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Observe that all the expressions are homogenous, hence we may make the simplifying assumption that a + b + c = 1 (Otherwise, divide through out by k = a + b + c , and replace the variable with a ∗ = k a , b ∗ = k b , c ∗ = k c .)
We have 1 = ( a + b + c ) 2 = a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + 2 ( a b + b c + c a ) = 2 9 ( a b + b c + c a ) so ( a b + b c + c a ) = 9 2 . Let a b c = M , which is a positive number.
Consider the cubic equation which has roots a , b , c . By Vieta's, the equation is X 3 − X 2 + 9 2 X − M = 0 . Since it has 3 real (positive) roots, it has a non-negative discriminant. As such, this tells us that
4 − 1 9 6 8 3 M 2 ≥ 0 ⇒ M ≤ 1 9 6 8 3 4 .
Thus, the minimum value of the expression would be 3 a b c a + b + c = 3 M 1 ≥ 6 4 1 9 6 8 3 = 4 . 1 2 4
Note: By factoring X 3 − X 2 + 9 2 X − 1 9 6 8 3 4 = [ x − 9 1 ( 3 − 3 ) ] [ x − 9 1 ( 3 − 3 ) ] [ x − 9 1 ( 3 + 2 3 ) ] , we see that equality occurs at ( 3 − 3 , 3 − 3 , 3 + 2 3 ) , and permutations and constant multiples.
I finally added a solution to this series of inequality questions with strange solution sets :)
On hindsight, the equations would be slightly nicer if we used a + b + c = 9 .
This question was adapted from an Iranian Olympiad problem which had the condition a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 2 ( a b + b c + c a ) , with a similar setup. With that condition, it was easier to guess the equality condition, and push through with the solution.