The dilemma is the sign

Algebra Level 3

Let a , b a, b and c c be arbitrary real numbers such that a + b + c > 0 a+b+c>0 and b 2 < 4 a c . b^{2}<4ac. Which of the following is right about the sign of a a ?

a a must be always negative. a a must be always positive. a a can be positive, negative or zero. a a can be positive or negative but not zero. a a must be always zero.

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3 solutions

Arturo Presa
Sep 15, 2015

Since b 2 < 4 a c b^{2}<4ac then a 0 a\not =0 . Now, taking into consideration that a + b + c = a ( 1 + b a + c a ) = a ( 1 + b a + b 2 4 a 2 + c a b 2 4 a 2 ) = a ( ( 1 + b 2 a ) 2 + 4 a c b 2 4 a 2 ) > 0 a+b+c=a (1+\frac{b}{a}+\frac{c}{a})=a(1+\frac{b}{a}+\frac{b^2}{4a^2}+\frac{c}{a}-\frac{b^2}{4a^2})=a((1+\frac{b}{2a})^{2}+\frac{4ac-b^2}{4a^2})>0 and ( 1 + b 2 a ) 2 + 4 a c b 2 4 a 2 > 0 (1+\frac{b}{2a})^{2}+\frac{4ac-b^2}{4a^2}>0 we obtain that a > 0. a>0.

Can we prove it with Arithmetic and Geometric Mean !!

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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I am not sure. I am going to think about it. But there is still another way of doing it by defining a quadratic function f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x + c f(x)=ax^{2}+bx+c . Since b 2 4 a c < 0 , b^{2}-4ac<0, the function does not have real zeros. So its graph is going to be completely above the x-axis or completely below the x-axis. Since f ( 1 ) = a + b + c > 0 , f(1)=a+b+c>0, then the whole graph is above the x-axis and this implies that a > 0. a>0.

Arturo Presa - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Nice , It is also good method .

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Sep 29, 2015

Let f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x + c f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c , the general quadratic function. The given information tells us

  • f ( 1 ) = a + b + c > 0 f(1) = a + b + c > 0 , so some of the graph of f f lies above the x-axis.

  • f ( x ) = 0 f(x) = 0 has no real solutions (since the discriminant b 2 4 a c < 0 b^2-4ac < 0 ), so the graph does not cross the x-axis.

Thus all of the graph of f f lies above the x-axis, showing that a > 0 a > 0 : the parabola is open from above.

Technically we must deal with the special case a = 0 a = 0 . But this implies b 2 < 0 b^2 < 0 , which is impossible. Therefore we can rule out this situation.

Another way to deal with the special case is to refer to your quadratic function. If a = 0 a = 0 , then f ( x ) = b x + c f(x) = bx + c , which is a linear function, meaning that part of the graph would lie below the x-axis, not fulfilling your first point.

Owen Leong - 5 years, 7 months ago

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You'd have to consider the extra-special case a = b = 0 a = b = 0 , which would allow the entire graph to lie above the x-axis :)

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 5 years, 7 months ago
Amartya Anshuman
Sep 17, 2015

a=0 would have meant square of b less than 0 (not possible) Then I used quadratic form

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