In an equilateral triangle △ A B C , there is a point M in the triangle such that M A : M B : M C is in the ratio 3 : 4 : 5 respectively.
Find ∠ A M B .
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This is just a special case of my problem https://brilliant.org/community-problem/pythagorean-point-in-equilateral-triangle/?group=dyIlDjXsElMS
It's quite easy if we think in this way: A M : B M : C M = 3 : 4 : 5 = ∠ B M C : ∠ C M A : ∠ A M B ⟹ ∠ A M B = 1 5 0 o . Assume the corresponding angles as 3 K , 4 K , 5 K and then 3 k + 4 k + 5 k = 3 6 0 o ⟹ 5 K = 1 5 0 o
This solution is wrong because A M : B M : C M = ∠ B M C ∠ C M A ∠ A M B .
lami's theorem in geometry or what :D how did you do this ?! :D
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@Maharnab Mitra Lami's theorem tells us that 3 : 4 : 5 = sin ∠ B M C : sin ∠ C M A : sin ∠ A M B , but how to prove that 3 : 4 : 5 = ∠ B M C : ∠ C M A : ∠ A M B ?
It, of course, isn't generally true that sin A : sin B = A : B . Is this where the fact that the triangle is equilateral is used (we haven't used the fact that the triangle is equilateral here yet, Lami's theorem doesn't require it).
Could anyone prove this here?
Sorry, the answer is right but the solution is not. The other two angles are not 90 and 120 degrees, deduced in this reasoning, but respectively 97 and 113, roughly.
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I have to publish here my solution for it's gone "private"...without remedy.
For simplicity let’s name AM=a, BM=b, CM=c and
∠ A M B = α , ∠ B M C = β , ∠ C M A = γ
Applying cosine rule, we can now write
1 ) a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b cos α = b 2 + c 2 − 2 b c cos β
2 ) a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b cos α = a 2 + c 2 − 2 a c cos γ
From 1) we then get the value of β in function of α , and from 2) the value of γ in function of α , implicitly:
3 ) cos β = 2 b c c 2 − a 2 + 2 a b cos α
4 ) cos γ = 2 a c c 2 − b 2 + 2 a b cos α
Plugging in the values of a, b, c (3k, 4k, 5k) we hence have:
5 ) cos β = 5 2 + 3 cos α
6 ) cos γ = 1 0 3 + 8 cos α
Let’s remember, at this point that:
α + β + γ = 2 π
hence we can write
α = − β − γ
and taking the cosine of both sides
cos α = cos ( β + γ )
and, at last
* 7 ) cos α = cos β cos γ − 1 − cos 2 β 1 − cos 2 γ *
which, through the equations 5) and 6) and some iterations, quickly give us the desired answer.
Can you explain your solution a little bit more elaborately. Thanks in advance.
Yes that is correct,,I did mistake to take 90,120 and 150 degrees Thanks. K.K.GARG,India
The statement is wrong in fact, ∠ A M B = 1 5 0 o but ∠ B M C = 6 0 o + α , where α is the smaller angle of a right triangle with 3, 4 and 5 sides.
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Draw the necessary figure.
Now, let M A = 3 x , M B = 4 x , M C = 5 x .
Now, rotate point M about B by 6 0 ∘ in clockwise direction to point P .This will map A B to B C , M B to B P and M A to C P .
So, B P = 4 x and C P = 3 x .
Since, Δ B M P is equilateral, M P = 4 x .
Now, in Δ M P C
M P 2 + P C 2 = 1 6 x 2 + 9 x 2 = 2 5 x 2 = ( 5 x ) 2 = M C 2
Hence, M P C is right angled at P.
So, ∠ B P C = ∠ B P M + ∠ M P C = 6 0 ∘ + 9 0 ∘ = 1 5 0 ∘
Hence, ∠ A M B = ∠ B P C = 1 5 0 ∘