Absolute Value System

Algebra Level 4

a b = 2 b c = 3 c d = 4 \begin{aligned} |a - b | &=& 2 \\ |b - c | &=& 3 \\ |c - d | &=& 4 \\ \end{aligned}

Given that a , b , c , d a,b,c,d are real numbers that satisfy the system of equations above, what is the sum of all distinct values of a d |a-d| ?


The answer is 18.

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16 solutions

Tim Vermeulen
Oct 31, 2014

a d = ( a b ) + ( b c ) + ( c d ) = ± 2 + ± 3 + ± 4 { 9 , 5 , 3 , 1 , 1 , 3 , 5 , 9 } \begin{aligned} a - d &= (a - b) + (b - c) + (c - d) \\&= \pm 2 + \pm 3 + \pm 4 \\&\in \{ -9, -5, -3, -1, 1, 3, 5, 9 \} \end{aligned} So a d { 1 , 3 , 5 , 9 } \lvert a - d \rvert \in \{ 1,3,5,9 \} , and 1 + 3 + 5 + 9 = 18 . 1 + 3 + 5 + 9 = \boxed{18}.

Very convincing solution.

Kyaw Zeya - 6 years, 1 month ago

Simplest! This is good.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 8 months ago

Seriously a good solution explaining why the values were taken like this!

Ashish Garg - 6 years, 1 month ago

I just did +-2 + +-3 + +-5 + +-9 and ended up with zero. ahhhhhh....!

Yash Mehan - 5 years, 5 months ago

Same method. Nice and short solution

Shreyash Rai - 5 years, 6 months ago

Solution is precise. Thought in a similar way.

Rinkon Saha - 5 years, 5 months ago

Same solution but yours is much neater. Nice!

Walter Tay - 5 years, 4 months ago

Took me a little while to get, but that's innovative.

FrostCrackle Kalinichenko - 3 years, 4 months ago

Quite comprehensive

Samuel Ansah - 3 years, 1 month ago

almost missed it because i put 0 on the first time ... its |a-d| not a-d o.o

ALLAN YUAN - 1 year, 6 months ago
Ayush Verma
Oct 29, 2014

a d = ( a b ) + ( b c ) + ( c d ) & a b = ± 2 , b c = ± 3 , c d = ± 4 , & a d = ( a b ) + ( b c ) + ( c d ) S o ( a d ) w i l l h a v e 8 v a l u e 4 p a i r ( o n e + v e & o n e v e ) h a v i n g 4 n u m e r i c a l l y d i f f e r e n t v a l u e , A n s = ( 2 + 3 + 4 ) + ( 2 + 3 + 4 ) + ( 2 3 + 4 ) + ( 2 + 3 4 ) = 18 a-d=(a-b)+(b-c)+(c-d)\quad \& \\ \\ a-b=\pm 2,\\ \\ b-c=\pm 3,\\ \\ c-d=\pm 4,\& \\ \\ a-d=(a-b)+(b-c)+(c-d)\\ \\ So\quad (a-d)\quad will\quad have\quad 8\quad value\quad \\ \\ 4\quad pair\quad (one\quad +ve\quad \& \quad one\quad -ve)\\ \\ having\quad 4\quad numerically\quad different\quad value,\\ \\ Ans=(2+3+4)+(-2+3+4)+(2-3+4)+(2+3-4)\\ \\ \quad \quad =18\\ \\

Good solution! The key part of this question was to write a d a-d as ( a b ) + ( b c ) + ( c d ) (a-b) + (b-c) + (c-d) .

Karthik Sharma - 6 years, 7 months ago

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I highly doubt that this was a KVPY problem since this is just too easy.

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 5 months ago

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Same here ! Such problems are a jackpot in such tests.

Venkata Karthik Bandaru - 5 years, 9 months ago

From { a b = 2 b = a ± 2 b c = 3 c = b ± 3 c d = 4 d = c ± 4 \begin{cases} |a-b|=2 & \Rightarrow b = a \pm 2 \\ |b-c|=3 & \Rightarrow c = b \pm 3 \\ |c-d|=4 & \Rightarrow d = c \pm 4 \end{cases}

Therefore, the possible values of d d and a d |a-d| for each a a are as follows:

{ b = a 2 { c = a 5 { d = a 9 a d = 9 d = a 1 a d = 1 c = a + 1 { d = a 3 a d = 3 d = a + 5 a d = 5 b = a + 2 { c = a 1 { d = a 5 a d = 5 d = a + 3 a d = 3 c = a + 5 { d = a + 1 a d = 1 d = a + 9 a d = 9 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} b = a - 2 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} c = a-5 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} d = a-9 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 9 \\ d = a-1 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 1 \end{cases} \\ c = a+1 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} d = a-3 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 3 \\ d = a+5 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 5 \end{cases} \end{cases} \\ b = a+2 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} c = a-1 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} d = a-5 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 5 \\ d = a+3 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 3 \end{cases} \\ c = a+5 \Rightarrow \begin{cases} d = a+1 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 1 \\ d = a+9 \Rightarrow |a-d| = 9 \end{cases} \end{cases} \end{cases}

Therefore, the sum of possible values of a d |a-d| is 1 + 3 + 5 + 9 = 18 1+3+5+9 = \boxed{18}

I thought of a similarly way

Cleres Cupertino - 5 years, 10 months ago

same approach i did

Eric Escober - 5 years, 10 months ago

Hi, Sir can you please tell us how expressions involving ( a - constant ) becomes the new expressions , a - d = constant .. i.e. the last column such as a - 9 => a - d = 9

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

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d = a n a d = a a + n = n = n d = a - n \Longrightarrow |a-d| = |a-a+n| = |n| = n . I have changed the solution for easy understanding.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Thank you very much

Syed Baqir - 5 years, 9 months ago

(a-b)=2 or (a-b)=-2 (b-c)=3 or (b-c)=-3 (c-d)=4 or (c-d)=-4 (a-d)=(a-b)+(b-c)+(c-d) = 2+3+4 (a-d) = 9 Mod on both side |(a-d)|= 9 .........(x) (a-b)=-2 (b-c)=-3 (c-d)=-4 (a-d)=(a-b)+(b-c)+(c-d) = (-2)+(-3)+(-4) (a-d) = -9 Mod on both sides |(a-d)| =| -9| |(a-d)|= 9 .........(Y) Adding (x) and (Y) Sum of distinct values of |(a-d)| would be= 9+9=18

pranay pal - 4 years ago

Same method as me. The neatness of the formatting of this solution is amazing.

Exponent Bot - 3 years, 2 months ago

I like this solution! A much more graphical method than the others providing a unique way to obtain the solution! Would possibly be quicker than the other methods maybe?

Stewart Feasby - 6 years, 1 month ago

did exactly the same way.

rahul saxena - 5 years, 12 months ago

exactly the same solution. this is the real meaning of absolute value------the distance between numbers

Zhiwei William Zhang - 5 years, 11 months ago

Best solution :)

Abhijeet Verma - 5 years, 8 months ago

Tootie Frootie
Apr 16, 2015

hmmm.....There are multiple answers to this since the absolute values are taken. The difference are known to be 2 3 4, so you can add all of them to get 9. But you can also add/subtract them in ways to get answers of 5, 3, and 1.

Yeah i think 9 should also be reasonable but it is not counted

gentech a - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I got also 9.

Anu Palosaari - 6 years, 1 month ago

" What is the sum of all possible values of"

Sylvain Robitaille - 6 years, 1 month ago

Can you explain with a little more detail? Actual equations, maybe?

Omkar Kulkarni - 5 years, 9 months ago
Aaron Zhang
Jan 26, 2019

Obviously, 'a' can be viewed as a reference point, and it doesn't change the value of |a-d|. So set a a =0. d = d c + c b + b = ± 4 ± 3 ± 2 { 1 , 3 , 5 , 9 } |d|=|d-c+c-b+b|=|±4±3±2|\in\{1,3,5,9\}

Matt P
Jan 17, 2017

Vishal S
Jun 26, 2015

Awesome problem :) :)

Bostang Palaguna
Sep 21, 2020

a d = ± 2 + ± 3 + ± 4 | a - d | = \pm 2 + \pm 3 + \pm 4

by drawing the tree, it's easily found that the possible values of |a-d| are: 1,3,5, 9.

thus, the sum is 18

Zahid Hussain
Sep 1, 2019

I did it in a very childish way by supposing a to be 4 and then brute forcing to calculate b and c which gave me 4 distinct values for c. When I reached d I had 8 values out of which 6 were distinct. When I got absolute values for the difference between 4 and those values got 6 values out of which 4 were distinct namely 1 3 5 and 9. Thus making the sum as 18.

Mohd Faraz
Feb 22, 2016

Zeeshan Ali
Dec 8, 2015

There are basically two possibilities for the value of each (a-b), (b-c) and (c-d) as 2 or -2, 3 or -3 and 4 or -4 respectively, hence we have 8 different possible combinations as under;

  1. a-b=+2, b-c=+3, c-d=+4 -> a-d=+9
  2. a-b=+2, b-c=+3, c-d=-4 -> a-d=+1
  3. a-b=+2, b-c=-3, c-d=+4 -> a-d=+3
  4. a-b=+2, b-c=-3, c-d=-4 -> a-d=-5
  5. a-b=-2, b-c=+3, c-d=+4 -> a-d=+5
  6. a-b=-2, b-c=+3, c-d=-4 -> a-d=-3
  7. a-b=-2, b-c=-3, c-d=+4 -> a-d=-1
  8. a-b=-2, b-c=-3, c-d=-4 -> a-d=-9

From 1 and 8 we get |a-d|=9, From 2 and 7 we get |a-d|=1, From 3 and 6 we get |a-d|=3, and From 4 and 5 we get |a-d|=5.

Hence 9+1+3+5=18 :)

Anthony Hong
Nov 26, 2015

2+3+4, 2-3-4, 2+3-4, 2-3+4

Lu Chee Ket
Oct 3, 2015

Nabangshu Sinha
Aug 4, 2015

It can be solved by using the number line. First place a and b, and then check for possible locations of c, and the corresponding location of d. c cannot be between a and b. c can either be before a or after b or vice versa. Which give only four possible locations of d. Correspondingly, the distance between a and d has four possible values: 9,3,1,5. So, the sum comes out to be 18.

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