The Hidden Ice Cream Cone

Geometry Level 5

We have two intersecting lines P C A PCA and P D B PDB where P C = 5 PC =5 , C A = 7 CA =7 , P D = 6 PD=6 and D B = 4 DB =4 . Given that A D × B C = 190 AD \times BC = 190 , find the length of A B AB .


The answer is 18.

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Michael Ng
Jan 22, 2015

Applying the converse of the Power of a Point theorem shows that A B D C ABDC is cyclic. (That's why it looks a bit like an ice cream with its cone when you add the circle.)

Also note that by SAS similarity P C D PCD ~ P B A PBA . So A B = 2 C D AB = 2CD .

Now by Ptolemy's Theorem, 7 × 4 + 2 C D 2 = 190 7\times 4 + 2CD^2 = 190 and it follows that C D = 9 A B = 18 CD =9 \implies \boxed{AB=18} as required.

I did the same as yours. This can also be done by guesswork.

Consider A B D B \Box ABDB as cyclic.

Apply Ptolemy's Theorem -

A C × B D + D C × A B = B D × A C AC \times BD + DC \times AB = BD \times AC

28 + D C × A B = 190 28 + DC \times AB = 190

D C × A B = 162 DC \times AB = 162

D C × A B = 2 × 9 × 9 DC \times AB = 2 \times 9 \times 9

D C × A B = 9 × 18 DC \times AB = 9 \times 18

D C = 9 , A B = 18 \huge \boxed{DC = 9 , AB = 18}

Nihar Mahajan - 6 years, 4 months ago

Hmm, nice, I used Stewart's Theorem rather.

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 4 months ago

i want to know how you came to know that it will form a cyclic, i am still not able to understand please help me...with other solution

Shaikh Waz Noori - 6 years, 4 months ago

It's because P A × P C = P B × P D PA \times PC = PB \times PD and the converse of Power of a Point states that therefore ABCD is cyclic. It is also known as intersecting chords, but the exterior version.

Michael Ng - 6 years, 4 months ago

great job! but can you tell me what is Ptolemy's theorem?

abhideep singh - 6 years, 4 months ago

Yes of course; Ptolemy's Theorem is a beautiful theorem about cyclic quadrilaterals. It states that if you have a cyclic quadrilateral A B C D ABCD , then A B × C D + B C × D A = A C × B D AB \times CD + BC \times DA = AC \times BD

Or in other words, the sum of the products of opposite sides is equal to the product of the diagonals. Its converse also holds and it has an amazing proof as well.

Michael Ng - 6 years, 4 months ago

Thanks buddy!

abhideep singh - 6 years, 4 months ago

First, we will use the Law of Cosines twice in order to find expressions for A D \overline{AD} and B C \overline{BC} .

Let A D = x \overline{AD} = x , and B C = y \overline{BC} = y . We can write the following:

x 2 = 6 2 + 1 2 2 2 6 12 c o s ( P ) x^{2} = 6^{2} + 12^{2} - 2*6*12*cos(P)

x 2 = 6 2 ( 5 4 c o s ( P ) ) x^{2} = 6^{2}*(5 - 4*cos(P))

x = 6 5 4 c o s ( P ) x = 6*\sqrt{5 - 4*cos(P)}

And also:

y 2 = 5 2 + 1 0 2 2 5 10 c o s ( P ) y^{2} = 5^{2} + 10^{2} - 2*5*10*cos(P)

y 2 = 5 2 ( 5 4 c o s ( P ) ) y^{2} = 5^{2}*(5 - 4*cos(P))

y = 5 5 4 c o s ( P ) y = 5*\sqrt{5 - 4*cos(P)}

Then, taking the product x y xy yields 30 ( 5 4 c o s ( P ) ) 30*(5 - 4*cos(P)) . But this value is known to be 190, thus:

30 ( 5 4 c o s ( P ) ) = 190 30*(5 - 4*cos(P)) = 190 , which implies c o s ( P ) = 1 3 cos(P) = -\frac {1}{3} .

Now we have everything we need to solve the problem.

Let A B = z \overline{AB} = z . Applying the Law of Cosines one last time will yield the following:

z 2 = 1 0 2 + 1 2 2 2 10 12 c o s ( P ) z^{2} = 10^{2} + 12^{2} - 2*10*12*cos(P)

z 2 = 100 + 144 + 80 = 324 z^{2} = 100 + 144 + 80 = 324

z = 18 z = 18 which is the answer sought.

Bhargav Upadhyay
Feb 2, 2015

Solution using Co-ordinate geometry.

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