The isolation of x with squareroots

Algebra Level 3

Solve x + 2 + x + 3 = 5 \sqrt{x+2} + \sqrt{x+3} = 5

Bonus, think about the general case:

x + n + x + m = y \sqrt{x+n} + \sqrt{x+m} = y

Try isolating x here.


The answer is 3.76.

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4 solutions

Mads Pasztor
Jul 14, 2018

Let's start with the solving the general case, because we can then use that to solve the general problem.

x + n + x + m = y \sqrt{x+n} + \sqrt{x+m} = y

Now let's start by squaring both sides. We will get.

( x + n ) + ( x + m ) + 2 x + n x + m = y 2 (x+n) + (x+m) + 2\sqrt{x+n}\sqrt{x+m} = y^{2}

A bit of simplification gives us.

2 x + n + m + 2 x + n x + m = y 2 2x + n + m + 2\sqrt{x+n}\sqrt{x+m} = y^{2}

Here comes a hard step and it might sound weird. But we will now add a n to both sides and subtract m. Thus we get

2 x + n + m + 2 x + n x + m + n m = y 2 + n m 2x + n + m + 2\sqrt{x+n}\sqrt{x+m} + n - m= y^{2} + n - m

And we will simplify again to get:

2 x + 2 n + 2 x + n x + m = y 2 + n m 2x + 2n + 2\sqrt{x+n}\sqrt{x+m} = y^{2} + n - m

Now we will divide by 2.

2 x + 2 n + 2 x + n x + m 2 = y 2 + n m 2 \frac{2x + 2n + 2\sqrt{x+n}\sqrt{x+m}}{2} = \frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2}

And simplify to get

x + n + x + n x + m = y 2 + n m 2 x + n + \sqrt{x+n}\sqrt{x+m} = \frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2}

Another bit tricky step, but we will pull out x + n \sqrt{x+n} out from parenthesis on the left side. This means, that we will get this:

x + n ( x + n + x + m ) = y 2 + n m 2 \sqrt{x+n}(\sqrt{x+n}+\sqrt{x+m}) = \frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2}

However remember that: x + n + x + m = y \sqrt{x+n} + \sqrt{x+m} = y . That means we can replace it x + n + x + m \sqrt{x+n} + \sqrt{x+m} with y y

x + n ( y ) = y 2 + n m 2 \sqrt{x+n}*(y) = \frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2}

Now we can divide by y on both sides to get:

x + n = y 2 + n m 2 y \sqrt{x+n} = \frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2y}

We can now square both sides.

x + n = ( y 2 + n m 2 y ) 2 x+n = (\frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2y})^{2}

And now to finish and isolate x, we will subtract n from both sides and get:

x = ( y 2 + n m 2 y ) 2 n x = (\frac{y^{2} + n - m}{2y})^{2} - n

Now we can just replace the numbers in: x + 2 + x + 3 = 5 \sqrt{x+2} + \sqrt{x+3} = 5 .

So we get that x is:

x = ( 5 2 + 2 3 2 5 ) 2 2 x = (\frac{5^2+2-3}{2*5})^{2} - 2

x = 2. 4 2 2 x = 2.4^{2} - 2

x = 3.76 x = 3.76

X X
Jul 14, 2018

Let x + 2 = a , x + 3 = b \sqrt{x+2}=a,\sqrt{x+3}=b ,then a + b = 5 , b 2 a 2 = 1 = ( b + a ) ( b a ) = 5 ( b a ) , b a = 0.2 , b = 2.6 , x = 3.76 a+b=5,b^2-a^2=1=(b+a)(b-a)=5(b-a),b-a=0.2,b=2.6,x=3.76

Genaral case:

Let x + n = a , x + m = b \sqrt{x+n}=a,\sqrt{x+m}=b ,then a + b = y , a 2 b 2 = n m = ( a + b ) ( a b ) = y ( a b ) , a b = n m y , a = y + n m y 2 , x = a 2 n = ( y 2 + n m y ) 2 n a+b=y,a^2-b^2=n-m=(a+b)(a-b)=y(a-b),a-b=\frac{n-m}y,a=\frac{y+\frac{n-m}y}2,x=a^2-n=(\frac{y^2+n-m}y)^2-n

Naren Bhandari
Jul 15, 2018

Generalization x + m + x + n = y x + m = y x + n \sqrt{x+m} + \sqrt {x+n} = y \implies \sqrt{x+m} = y-\sqrt {x+n} Squaring we have x + m = y 2 2 y x + n + x + n x + n = y 2 + n m 2 y x = ( y 2 + n m 2 y ) 2 n x = ( 5 2 + 3 2 2 5 ) 2 3 = 169 75 75 = 94 25 3.76 x +m = y^2 -2y\sqrt{x+n} +x+n \implies \\ \sqrt{x+n} = \dfrac{y^2 +n-m}{2y} \implies x =\left(\dfrac{y^2+n-m}{2y}\right)^2-n \\ \therefore x = \left(\dfrac{5^2+3-2}{2\cdot 5}\right)^2-3 = \dfrac{169-75}{75} = \dfrac{94}{25}\approx \boxed{3.76 }


Chew-Seong Cheong
Jul 15, 2018

x + n + x + m = y Squaring both sides x + n + 2 ( x + n ) ( x + m ) + x + m = y 2 Rearranging 2 x + m + n y 2 = 2 ( x + n ) ( x + m ) Squaring both sides 4 x 2 + 4 ( m + n y 2 ) x + ( m + n y 2 ) 2 = 4 x 2 + 4 ( m + n ) x + 4 m n Rearranging 4 y 2 x = m 2 + 2 m n + n 2 2 ( m + n ) y 2 + y 4 4 m n x = ( m n ) 2 2 ( m + n ) y 2 + y 4 4 y 2 For n = 2 , m = 3 , y = 5 = ( 2 3 ) 2 2 ( 2 + 3 ) 5 2 + 5 4 4 ( 5 2 ) = 376 100 = 3.76 \begin{aligned} \sqrt{x+n} + \sqrt{x+m} & = y & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Squaring both sides} \\ x + n + 2\sqrt{(x+n)(x+m)} + x + m & = y^2 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Rearranging} \\ 2x + m + n - y^2 & = - 2\sqrt{(x+n)(x+m)} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Squaring both sides} \\ 4x^2 + 4(m+n-y^2)x + (m+n-y^2)^2 & = 4x^2 + 4(m+n)x + 4mn & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Rearranging} \\ 4y^2x & = m^2+2mn + n^2 - 2(m+n)y^2 + y^4 - 4mn \\ x & = \frac {(m-n)^2 - 2(m+n)y^2+y^4}{4y^2} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{For }n =2, m=3, y = 5 \\ & = \frac {(2-3)^2-2(2+3)5^2+5^4}{4(5^2)} \\ & = \frac {376}{100} = \boxed{3.76} \end{aligned}

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