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Over all real numbers x x , find the minimum value of ( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 + ( x 6 ) 2 + 121 \sqrt{(x+6)^2+25} + \sqrt{(x-6)^2+121} .


The answer is 20.

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17 solutions

Dan Lawson
Apr 29, 2014

Consider the figure below. Title of picture Title of picture A B = ( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 AB=\sqrt{(x+6)^2+25} and B C = ( x 6 ) 2 + 121 BC=\sqrt{(x-6)^2+121} . The sum A B + B C AB+BC is minimized when x x is such that A B + B C = A C = 20 AB+BC=AC=20 .

Very elegant solution ;-)

Ginasio Mental - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Honestly Dan, did you actually devise that problem because your solution would have been difficult to work had the values of 121 and 25 not been there. Also x+6 and x-6 were helpful but turning x-6 into x-6 was really a stroke of genius which unfortunately many people failed to understand.

I guess you should send your solution to Numberphile

Zahid Hussain - 1 year, 12 months ago

I dont get it

Samantha Grey - 5 years, 6 months ago

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theorem of pythagoras

Tlabego Rudolph - 5 years, 1 month ago

From the Pythagorean theorem, we have AB is the first term, and BC is the second term. We can rewrite the question as asking for the minimum value of AB+ BC. To minimize this, we want AC to be a straight line. From this, we can use the Pythagorean theorem to find AC = 20.

Ethan Y - 4 years, 10 months ago

Simplest solution bro

Yuvraj Pratham - 2 years, 5 months ago

Don't sweat it. Same here.

Gean Llego - 5 years, 5 months ago

Very pretty solution.

Panya Chunnanonda - 5 years, 11 months ago

Beauty of math..

Pankaj Joshi - 5 years, 11 months ago

very elegant!

Huân Lê Quang - 5 years, 10 months ago

Lovely solution! :D

Sandhya Saravanan - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Ohm yeah tip k

Viet Hung - 1 year, 10 months ago

Cool. This is indeed a wise way to answer the problem.

Emmanuel David - 5 years, 7 months ago

Epic... I never thought about using geometry....

Shreyas Pai - 5 years, 6 months ago

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It is a geometry problem -_-

Razzi Masroor - 4 years, 5 months ago

master solution

Abhijit Das - 7 years, 1 month ago

Very good solution. I seen that a lot of people didn't understand so let me shine light on this solution, in the pythagorean theorem, a^2 +b^2=c^2 , ^ means to the power of and I don"t know how to get the squared sign. Anyway substituting the fact that AB and BC are hypothenuses, AB^2= 5^2 + (6+x)^2, so thats why AB = the square root of (x+6)^2 +25. same logic gives you the same explanation for BC. This is where I assume people get confused on why AC=AB+BC. Remember the triangle inequality theorem and triangle ABC and that there would have been line AC, in this case AC<AB+BC, but we have to find the minimum value so AC=AB+BC This still technically works, it infinitely close to so it is fine. Now look in the diagram, imagine line AC existing , it is the hypothenuse of right triangle AC, and the point that is the intersection of the two sides that have lengths of 12 and 16. Using the Pythagorean theorem, AC=20, so AB+BC=20. This is quite long and I hope this helps explain the problem.

                                            Clearing up

Added August 22 2016. A lot of people have been showing feedback on my solution so I decided to add this part. First, the two parts of the equation looked like two hypotenuses or hypoteni, as of now, August 22 2016, I realized a major issue that isn't shown how 6-x can equal to the x-6 shown in the second term, the 6-x shown in a diagram which is part of the first solution.I am going to explain why this still works.Since 6-x=-1(x-6).Replace that in the second term and -1^2 is 1 so it technically works out in the end.Anyway, after this info,I tried making a diagram, also the two sides that are integers are 5 and 11, they were squared in the two terms, they are the square root of 25 and 121. I got to make the diagram that looks just like Dan Lawson's. 6-x+6+x are two other sides in the original two terms and 6-x+6+x=12. 11+5=16 and the other leg is 12, the hypotenuse is 20. Also I edited the first part to show why we assume why AB+BC=AC.Thanks for all the feedback

Razzi Masroor - 5 years ago

No doubt it's a good explanation but can you explain what goes wrong when we interpret it in a Cartesian system ? I mean we definitely have to take the points (6,11) & (-6,5) then we have to find a point in x axis such that the above equation attains the lowest value.

Arnav Das - 5 years, 9 months ago

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With that choice you have no solution. This is because no point on the x-axis intersects with the line joining (6,-11) and (-6,5) and lies between them. However, you can still solve using the cartesian approach. Try with the points (6,11) and (-6,-5). This is also valid and the intersection of this line with the x-axis gives you the solution. Hope it is clear.

Dwaipayan Mukherjee - 5 years, 7 months ago

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we can have points (6,11) and (-6,-5) we get x=-2.25 using these coordinates we get the same answer

Prince Kumar Maurya - 5 years, 6 months ago

No, one can solve it even if he takes two points A(6,11) and B(-6,5) on the cartesian plane if he has the knowledge of basic geometry and concept of image. First of all if we take P(x,0) a variable point on x axis, then we have to find the least value of PA + PB. Since A, B lies on the same side of x axis, lets take a point C (-6,-5) [ that is the image of point B in x axis to ensure that PB = PC ]. Now use the concept that the least value of PA + PC ( or PA + PB) is AC when P lies on the interior part of the line segment joining A and C. Since we know the coordinates of P and the equation of line AC, we can easily find out 'x'.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 5 months ago

Easier to set but more difficult to solve where we ought to visualize this.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 8 months ago

I don't get it. How can we find out the numbers of 11, 12, 16, 5, 6+x and 6-x?

Megah Megah - 5 years, 1 month ago

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11 and 5 are the squared root of 25 and 121. 12 is the sum of (6+x) + (6-x).16 is 11 + 5. Just draw the two triangles and rearrange them as in the figure.

Giovanni Dall'Olio - 2 years, 6 months ago

very good idea, but i think it's wrong, because we can't be sure if (x-6)>0 or (X+6) >0, we can't use this way .

Jie Yang - 5 years ago

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It doesn't matter, because all that is required is that (x-6)^2=(6-x)^2, and that is true for all real numbers .. they don't have to be positive.

David Moore - 5 years ago

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yes, that's right, but look at the figure, (x+6) and (x-6) are considered as two sides of the triangle, so (x+6)>0 , (x-6)>0 are the conditions! my answer is √180. The minimum value is the distance between two points A (-6, -5) and B (6, -11).

Jie Yang - 5 years ago

shouldn't AB be root[ (x+6)^2 +25] according to the question?

Sahil Gohan - 7 years, 1 month ago

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You're right. I've fixed the error. Thanks!

Dan Lawson - 7 years, 1 month ago

Its a joy to see such math.

Rinkon Saha - 5 years, 5 months ago

really nice

Guilherme Ferreira Carvalho - 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually.... I want to know how you have the thought of taking (6-x) instead of (x-6). I didnt got the answer bacause of my traditional thinking, and was pleased by your out of box thinking!

sai nath - 5 years, 1 month ago

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in the second term, the side could be x-6 or 6-x. we know this since (x-6)^2 is equal to (6-x)^2, double negative

Razzi Masroor - 4 years, 9 months ago

That is simply genius ! :)

tyga collins - 5 years, 1 month ago

Beautiful solution

Arya Ukunde - 5 years, 1 month ago

but i dont get how come AC is 20

Jus Jaisinghani - 4 years, 11 months ago

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AC is 20 from the Pythagorean theorem, notice that a leg is 5+11 = 16, and the other is 6+x + 6-x , which is 12. This is a 3-4-5 triangle scaled up, so we have AC= 20.

Ethan Y - 4 years, 10 months ago

please explain again. not getting it

Hari Om Sharma - 4 years, 11 months ago

You honestly must be a bunch of math heads, to my Simple Chef brain... what you wrote makes no sense. just being honest

Thor Sacchi - 4 years, 11 months ago

That's beautiful!

Nigel Chan - 4 years, 11 months ago

https://www.geogebra.org/m/wTcucKp5

YenYi Peng - 4 years, 9 months ago

There are no references between the equation and the diagram

Ephraim Lior - 4 years, 9 months ago

@Dan Lawson - I had to bash this with calculus to solve this problem. Your solution, however, is orders of magnitude more elegant. Great job!

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 7 months ago

THE BEAUTIFUL OF GEOMETRY!

Tấn Phát Nguyễn - 4 years, 6 months ago

This is wrong because you have ignored that x must me constant and cannot be arbitrarily placed on the line AC.

Jeremy Poncy - 4 years, 6 months ago

Such a nice solution...

Millad Jallali - 4 years, 5 months ago

wow nice solution

Akhil Badoni - 4 years ago

That why i love mathematics...

abhay chauhan - 3 years, 4 months ago

Nice solution

Mr. India - 3 years, 3 months ago

Elegant. But several of us solved for x which was not accepted as solution. Restating the problem may help

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 2 months ago

Good solution

Nirmal Ghorai - 3 years, 2 months ago

That’s a beautiful solution. However this converts an algebra problem into a geometry problem. No wonder I struggled.

Tim J. - 2 years, 11 months ago

Took me a lot of time to process this solution since I didn't think of using geometry in the first place. This is great!

Harmon Ric Cayaon - 2 years, 11 months ago

It is so miraculous!( •̀∀•́ )

XerDazzle XD酱 - 2 years, 5 months ago

That was a very beautiful solution, thanks a lot

Thọ Ngô - 2 years, 5 months ago

@above no respect for geometry

when i saw the triangle in the question i was like what is that doing there then i see this..

ALLAN YUAN - 1 year, 6 months ago

I believe your answer is incorrect. Here is why. By power mean inequality, Min value is {((x+6)^2+(x-6)^2+149)^1/2} Which is(4x^2+221) Min value comes when x=0 That value is442^1/2

Nitin Kumar - 1 year, 6 months ago

I think, the solution requires that [(x+6)+(x-6)]² = [(x+6)+(6-x)]² which only works for x=6 which is exactly where the original function attains its minimum =20.

Olle Freyja - 10 months, 1 week ago

Worthy question to be considered intelligent

Utkarsh Ujjaval - 9 months ago

omg that's fucking brilliant, just pure creativity

Oximas omar - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

really great

syed afran ahmmad - 7 years, 1 month ago

Awesome man..

Off Topic : \text{Off Topic :} How can i draw a geometrical diagram in pc ?? Which software did you use??

Ahmed Arup Shihab - 6 years, 3 months ago

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geogebra it's free

Tala Al Saleh - 5 years, 11 months ago

Unbelievable geometrical interpretation.

nagarjuna reddy - 5 years, 8 months ago

Question was to find minimum value of the equation which is 24. AB + BC = AC is true for only when AB & BC are continuous straight line with same slope, for triangle or answer you have explained that should be vector AB + vector BC= vector AC. So, your answer has no logic & it is wrong.

Nehem Tudu - 5 years, 1 month ago

In the figure, you switched the X's and the 6's around. When you flipped the x-6 to 6-x, it changed the whole equation

Trey Lawrence - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Notice that -1 (x-6)= 6-x . When you square them, (6-x)^2 = (-1 (x-6))^2=(x-6)^2

Ethan Y - 4 years, 10 months ago

Bravo! Elegant thinking.

Vishnu Bhagyanath - 5 years, 11 months ago

its a beauty..

Tarequl Islam Khan - 5 years, 11 months ago

Very nicely presented.

Aran Pasupathy - 5 years, 11 months ago

Outstanding Solution!!!

Cleres Cupertino - 5 years, 10 months ago

I didnt get it ..as we know underroot is distributive if the two numbers are positive ... and both the nos. (x+6)^2 and 25 are positive nos. And similiarly 11 And (x - 6)^2 ...so it should hv been done like this . \ sqrt{ (x+6)^2 } + \sqrt{25} + \sqrt{(x-6)^2} + \sqrt{121} ......

So we get 2x + 16 ...but as it has been asked for minimim value ..there fore

2x + 16 >= 0

Therefore mimimum value of x is equal to " -8 " ..according to me ...can anyone help me clear my doubt or accept this answer

divyansh chauhan - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Underroot is not distributive even if the two numbers are positive.

Anupam Nayak - 5 years, 6 months ago

Beautiful.

Asaf Greenspan - 5 years, 6 months ago

very nice solution

Sanggi Pigantara - 5 years, 4 months ago

Nice solution :-)

Agi Szabo - 5 years, 2 months ago

nice solution

nadia nowshin - 5 years, 2 months ago

if x is greater than 6 ; this method would it be true ?

Anass Essounaini - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Yes it would still work. You can imagine point B moving away from (AC) which means AB+BC is becoming bigger and bigger.

Tala Al Saleh - 5 years, 10 months ago

If you read the question properly, we are not supposed to find the value of x, but find the minimum value for the given equation ( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 + ( x 6 ) 2 + 121 \sqrt{(x+6)^2+25} + \sqrt{(x-6)^2+121}

Sudhir Yadav - 5 years, 5 months ago

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The right word would be "expression", not "equation", but you're right.

Oli Hohman - 5 years, 2 months ago

Art of the math...

Orkun Uslu - 5 years, 7 months ago

one of the best answer

Prashanth CN - 5 years, 5 months ago

Your solution assumes that x-6 = 6-x... That's incorrect. The sum of the two segments is 12 only if x-6=6-x, otherwise the length of the left and right sides of the rectangle is 2x. If x-6=6-x, then x=6 and therefore you cannot use Pythagoras' theorem as x-6=0, and you can't have a triangle with 2 sides

Kaushik Rajan - 5 years, 2 months ago

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No, his solution only requires that (x-6)^2 = (6-x)^2, which is indeed true for all of the real numbers.

David Moore - 5 years, 1 month ago
Akif Khan
May 2, 2014

L e t u s d e f i n e t h e c o m p l e x n u m b e r s , z 1 = 11 ( x 6 ) i a n d z 2 = 5 + ( x + 6 ) i T h e r e f o r e , z 1 = 1 1 2 + ( x 6 ) 2 & z 2 = 5 2 + ( x + 6 ) 2 N o w a p p l y i n g t h e t r i a n g l e i n e q u a l i t y o f c o m p l e x n u m b e r s , z 1 + z 2 z 1 + z 2 z 1 + z 2 = 16 2 + 12 2 = 20. W h i c h i s t h e m i n i m u m v a l u e . Let\quad us\quad define\quad the\quad complex\quad numbers\quad ,\\ z1\quad =\quad 11\quad -\quad (x-6)i\quad \\ and\quad z2\quad =\quad 5\quad +\quad (x+6)i\\ \\ Therefore,\quad \left| z1 \right| =\sqrt { 11^{ 2 }\quad +\quad (x-6)^{ 2 }\quad } \quad \& \quad \left| z2 \right| =\sqrt { 5^{ 2 }\quad +\quad (x+6)^{ 2 } } \\ \\ Now\quad applying\quad the\quad triangle\quad inequality\quad of\quad complex\quad numbers,\quad \\ \left| z1 \right| \quad +\quad \left| z2 \right| \quad \ge \quad \left| z1\quad +\quad z2 \right| \\ \\ \Rightarrow \quad \left| z1\quad +\quad z2 \right| \quad =\quad \sqrt { { 16 }^{ 2 }\quad +\quad { 12 }^{ 2 } } \quad =\quad 20.\\ Which\quad is\quad the\quad minimum\quad value.

Best Solution IMO

Radinoiu Damian - 5 years, 10 months ago

Thats an awesome solution!!!

Tanya Gupta - 7 years, 1 month ago

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I agree, it's a good one!!

Tala Al Saleh - 5 years, 10 months ago

I like this way.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 8 months ago

Satisfied ... With your answer

Anish Soni - 5 years ago

I don't see how you prove that the function's minimum is 20. It seems to me like you just prove it to be a lower bound on the minimum...

Louis Noizet - 4 years, 10 months ago

shouldn't squaring the i on z2 have made it - (x+6)^2 ?
where did that minus sign go?

Mohamed Al-Ganzoury - 4 years, 9 months ago

Really awsm

Gaurav Rajpoot - 4 years, 7 months ago
Rindell Mabunga
Apr 30, 2014

( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 \sqrt{(x + 6)^2 + 25} is the distance between the points ( x , 3 ) (x , 3) and ( 6 , 8 ) (-6, 8)

and

( x 6 ) 2 + 121 \sqrt{(x - 6)^2 + 121} is the distance between the points ( x , 3 ) (x , 3) and ( 6 , 8 ) (6, -8)

by Distance Formula

(This is because ( 3 8 ) 2 = 25 (3 - 8)^2 = 25 and ( 3 + 8 ) 2 = 121 (3 + 8)^2 = 121 )

Therefore, the minimum distance will be achieved if and only if all of the three points lie on the same line.

Therefore, the minimum distance is the distance between the points ( 6 , 8 ) (-6, 8) and ( 6 , 8 ) (6, -8) which is 20 \boxed{20}

Whats wrong with considering the points ( x , 0 ) (x,0) , ( 6 , 5 ) (-6,5) and ( 6 , 11 ) (6,11) ?

Pranav Arora - 7 years, 1 month ago

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I am in the same trouble. I'd like to know if someone can provide a geometric solution for that case.

Juan rodrígez - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Not exactly. It’s not 20.

Yumi Zhang - 2 years ago

Nothing is wrong! If you fix the ordinate of the point (in your case, 0) the other points change accordingly. There are infinite configurations but the final dinstance is always the same. Even in your case, the dinstance between (-6,5) and (6,11) is 20!

Ernesto Civello - 5 years, 11 months ago

Actually the same. You should symmetry (-6,5) along the x axis to (-6,-5). In Chinese we call it “将军饮马问题”.

Yumi Zhang - 2 years ago

Used minima theory..... Found f(x) attains mimumum at x= -2.25. thus Solving answer=20

Akshay Sant - 6 years, 10 months ago

Point ( x , 0 ) (x,0) isn't to be found between ( 6 , 5 ) (-6,5) and ( 6 , 11 ) (6,11) , therefore you cannot get minimality by Rindell Mabunga's argument. Instead of simply drawing a line, you have to apply Hero's smaller path theorem.

pierantonio legovini - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Why??? The line between (-6,5) and (6,11) is not horizontal. So there is an interception point with horizontal axis (with coordinates (x,0))

Ernesto Civello - 5 years, 11 months ago

Exactly my point!

Ashok Yadav - 5 years, 11 months ago

But if we go by this method, then the three coordinates can also be assumed as (x,0), (-6,5) and (6,11). Then answer will be altogether different.

Ashok Yadav - 5 years, 11 months ago

Clearest solution to me. Thanks

Akela Chana - 2 years, 3 months ago

You need to check if you can draw a line that goes threws all this 3 points, you will get that 1 option is invalid. I did it with 1) A(0,0) 2) B(x+6,5) 3) C(12,-5)/(12,16) When I found the equation for the line I found out that the point (12,-5) can't work if I want point B to go threw line AC. so point C=(12,16). You can also try to draw it on coordinate system and see that 1 point is not logical.

Eran Gordon - 1 year, 3 months ago

best solution!

Mayank Holmes - 7 years, 1 month ago
Nguyễn Hưng
May 29, 2016

Best solution to me.😃😃😃😃

Sayan Das - 4 years, 9 months ago

It is best solution.~!

호영 김 - 2 years, 11 months ago

Easiest solution for me!

FENG SI WEI - 1 year, 2 months ago
Jaya Yarlagadda
Aug 18, 2015

I found a way but some may find it too blunt, but i rather pick this standard way when i'm stuck. (For people who couldn't approach using the solution by Dan Lawson) ;)

Just think of finding the minimum of a normal function f ( x ) f(x) , we just find where f ( x ) f'(x) is 0 and there you get maximum or minimum. Let f ( x ) = ( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 + ( x 6 ) 2 + 121 f(x)=\sqrt{(x+6)^{2}+25} +\sqrt{(x-6)^{2}+121} \frac{}{} So derivative of f ( x ) f(x) is f ( x ) = x + 6 ( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 + x 6 ( x 6 ) 2 + 121 = 0 f'(x)=\frac{x+6}{\sqrt{(x+6)^{2}+25}}+\frac{x-6}{\sqrt{(x-6)^{2}+121}}=0 Its quite easy to solve after squaring on both sides and solving the quadratic equation 4 x 2 + 73 x + 144 = 0 4x^{2}+73x+144=0 Roots 9 4 \frac{-9}{4} and -16,
Value of the f ( x ) f(x) at the roots = 20 , 5 3 20,5\sqrt{3}

So Minimum value is 20 \boxed{20}

Moderator note:

Note that you have not shown why it is a minimum.

The roots of derevative shows extrems points. Because obviously the maximom for x is not available. The root is minimum point

Mahdi Farahnaki - 5 years, 2 months ago

Straight general way, although harder, this could be fast.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 8 months ago

You can also show that it is minimum by taking the double derivative and seeing if it is greater than 0 or less than it, otherwise I like the way you did it. Good job ;)

Racchit Jain - 5 years, 3 months ago

No need to take 2nd derivative. It is clearly visible that no finite maxima exists, so the solution will give a minima

patent fox - 3 years, 9 months ago

Best answer is the derivative test for max and min value of a function ... 👍🏻

Adnan Alzahrani - 3 years, 6 months ago

How is -16 eliminated as a solution?

Neil Gupta - 3 years, 5 months ago

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If you try x=-16 on the function, the function gives =35.77, which is greater than 20 (x=-9/4), and if u graph this function, it shows only 1 minimum.

Eliud Alejandro Maldonado Sanchez - 3 years, 5 months ago

Squaring both sides can result in having more solutions then there actually are. You always have to verify your final results if you use this method and then you would indeed see that x = -16 is not an answer to the problem.

Brent Smits - 3 years ago

Derivative becomes zero at points of inflection. (It could be a maximum or a minimum). Usual method to find second derivative to check if its a maximum or minimum, but for this particular question there couldn't be any finite maximum as mentioned by Kaustubh.

Jaya Yarlagadda - 3 years, 4 months ago
Rajen Kapur
Apr 26, 2014

First think graphically. It is to find a point on x-axis such that its distances from P(-6,5) and Q(6,11) add up to a minimum. And then, geometry comes in. If you prefer, it is the optics of physics. The minimum distance is the distance between P and the mirror-image of Q in x-axis, i.e.(6,-11). Now (-6-6)^2 + (5-(-11))^2 is 20^2. Hence the minimum value is 20.

Illustration provided below by Dan Lawson makes the solution clear.

Rajen Kapur - 7 years, 1 month ago

but how The minimum distance is the distance between P and the mirror-image of Q in x-axis,

Abhay Agarwal - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Straight Line Path is the shortest

Vaibhav Agrawal - 7 years, 1 month ago

@Rajen Kapur - Could you please tell me how to solve these maximum-minimum, maximizing, minimizing problems... please?? I would be extremely grateful. Is there any proper/definite method to do it ...if so can you suggest some resources related to this topic? Thanks

Krishna Ar - 7 years ago

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U can use calculus

I got x = 9 4 , 16 x=\dfrac{-9}{4},-16 as the critical points.

Aneesh Kundu - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Yup Yup...Calculus is fine. At that point of time :-I/E-5 months back I didnt know of critical points :P.. I was looking for something algebraic too :)

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 7 months ago

I did too. In fact, whenever I'm confronted with a maximum/minimum problem, I always resort to using calculus.

Aran Pasupathy - 5 years, 11 months ago

Forgot the - sign with 2.25 :l, ended up with 21.##############.. ;(

aneesh kejariwal - 5 years, 11 months ago

The minimum sought is the reflection of Point P into M. See the image therefore by similar triangles we get. (6+x)/11=(6-x)/5 resolving for x we get x=2.25 and the minimum equals 2 0

Istiak Reza
Jul 1, 2015

We can use calculus....though it will be a little bit lengthy...The 1st derivative of the function is 4x^2+73x+144....We set it to be 0 and solving for x we find x=-9/4, 16....The 2nd derivative of the function is 8x+73...plugging in -9/4 here gives lesser value than 16...so plugging -9/4 in the main function gives the minimum value and that is 20...

Shourya Pandey
Mar 27, 2016

By the Minkowski's Inequality, ( x + 6 ) 2 + 5 2 + ( x 6 ) 2 + 1 1 2 ( ( x + 6 ) ( x 6 ) ) 2 + ( 5 + 11 ) 2 = 20 \sqrt {(x+6)^2 + 5^2} + \sqrt {(x-6)^2 + 11^2} \geq \sqrt {((x+6)-(x-6))^2 + (5+11)^2} = 20 .

I'll leave the equality case to be found out.

Shouldn't there be a positive sign in the rhs.

Puneet Pinku - 5 years ago
Shuvam Keshari
Sep 24, 2015

just the use of fermats principle!!

required-- distance between the points:: (-6,5) and (6,-11) for the sum to be min. which is =20

Raymond Fang
Jan 23, 2021

First, draw a plane coordinate system like this: The distance between ( 6 , 5 ) (-6,5) and ( x , 0 ) (x,0) is ( x ( 6 ) ) 2 + ( 5 0 ) 2 2 = ( x + 6 ) 2 + 25 2 \sqrt[2]{(x-(-6))^2+(5-0)^2} = \sqrt[2]{(x+6)^2+25} . The distance between ( x , 0 ) (x,0) and ( 6 , 11 ) (6,-11) is ( x 6 ) 2 + ( 0 ( 11 ) ) 2 2 = ( x 6 ) 2 + 121 2 \sqrt[2]{(x-6)^2+(0-(-11))^2} = \sqrt[2]{(x-6)^2+121} . The minimum value of the original formula is the distance between two blue dots: ( ( 6 ) 6 ) 2 + ( 5 ( 11 ) ) 2 2 = 1 2 2 + 1 6 2 2 = 144 + 256 2 = 400 2 = 20 \sqrt[2]{((-6)-6)^2+(5-(-11))^2} = \sqrt[2]{12^2+16^2} = \sqrt[2]{144+256} = \sqrt[2]{400} = 20

I used GeoGebra to draw the plane coordinate system. :)

Raymond Fang - 4 months, 3 weeks ago
YenYi Peng
Aug 21, 2016
Abhi Kumbale
Jan 2, 2016

Using the diagram by Dan Lawson A C = 1 2 2 + 1 6 2 = 20. \sqrt{AC}=\sqrt{12^2+16^2}=20.

The best way to solve this problem is using MatLab to graph the whole function from -100 to 100.

It isn't about getting the answer right, it is about sharping your problem solving skills.

Anupam Nayak - 5 years, 6 months ago

Remember to increase finest.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 8 months ago

I think the problem solving skills imply using all tools available, theoretical or otherwise, to find the answer. Besides that, to qualify as best, the solution must be evaluated along some desirable characteristic. Obviously, this solution cannot be classified as elegant in mathematical terms, but If the characteristic is time, this could be a very good solution with low error margin. On the other hand, If evaluated in relation to computing resources, using the Android Mathematics app to generate the graph is better, considering availability and total cost of hardware/software.

Francisco de Jesús Orozco Ruiz - 4 years, 1 month ago
Oximas Omar
Apr 19, 2021

a lot of people have brilliant solutions and i am here hacking the system graphed it on desmos and figured it out

Prince Loomba
Apr 14, 2016

The derivative is 0 at x=-2.25. The value at this point is 20 and a bigger value can easily be found to show that it is minima.

Can someone help me to understand what's wrong in the following solutions?

Since the two member of the expression represent triangles i tried to use the triangular inequality. If you do all the calculations you get x<-6 and x<6. The two equations must be true at the same time, so x < -6 is the solution. If you substitute for x = -6 you get 21.2something. Round up to 22 or down to 21 doesn't work. Why?

Michele Franzoni - 2 years, 3 months ago

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Show the full calculations please

Prince Loomba - 2 years, 2 months ago

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