The Special Number 24

The number 24 24 is a special number because it is one less than a square ( 5 2 5^{2} ) and if it's multiplied by 2 2 , that answer is also one less than a square ( 48 + 1 = 49 = 7 2 48+1=49=7^{2} ). Find the lowest possible special number greater than 24 24 .


The answer is 840.

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Hongqi Wang
Nov 12, 2020

let A = x 2 1 A = x^2 - 1 , then 2 A = 2 ( x 2 1 ) = y 2 1 2A = 2(x^2 - 1) = y^2 - 1 , y 2 = 2 x 2 1 \therefore y^2 = 2x^2 - 1

So y y must be odd and y 2 = 4 k + 1 y^2 = 4k + 1 , then x x must be odd too.

Then it is easy to get:

  • y = 1 , A = 0 y = 1, A = 0

  • y = 7 , A = 24 y = 7, A = 24

  • y = 41 , A = 840 y = 41, A = 840

  • y = 239 , A = 28560 y = 239, A = 28560

It was asking for less than 24?

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Yeah my bad It's my first problem . And yes It was supposed to not count 0 and I've edited it

Jayaditya Venkatesan - 7 months ago

Let the number n n satisfies n = a 2 1 , 2 n = b 2 1 n=a^2-1,2n=b^2-1 , where a , b a, b are integers. Then

a = b 2 + 1 2 a=\displaystyle \sqrt {\dfrac {b^2+1}{2}}

So b b must be odd. Say b = 2 m + 1 b=2m+1 . Then a = 2 m 2 + 2 m + 1 = m 2 + ( m + 1 ) 2 a=\sqrt {2m^2+2m+1}=\sqrt {m^2+(m+1)^2} .

So m , m + 1 , a m, m+1,a must form a Pythagorean Triplet . We know that ( 3 , 4 , 5 ) , ( 20 , 21 , 29 ) , . . . (3,4,5),(20,21,29),... are such triples.

So, next to m = 3 , m = 20 a = 29 , m=3,m=20\implies a=29, and n = 2 9 2 1 = 840 n=29^2-1=\boxed {840} .

Richard Desper
Nov 12, 2020

Brute force:

Iterating over x x : let y = 2 ( x 2 1 ) y = 2(x^2-1) and test whether ( y 1 ) (y-1) is a perfect square.

Yes when x = 1 x=1 ( x 2 1 = 0 x^2-1 = 0 ), x = 5 x=5 ( x 2 1 = 24 x^2-1=24 ) and x = 29 x=29 ( x 2 1 = 840 x^2-1=840 ).

841 = 2 9 2 841 = 29^2 and 1681 = 4 1 2 1681 = 41^2 .

I assumed that the question was not looking for 0 0 .

This is an example of a Pell equation , by the way, specifically x 2 2 y 2 = 1 x^2-2y^2=-1

The values 24 24 and 840 840 correspond to values of y 2 1 y^2-1 in these solutions. The next "special" numbers are 28560 28560 and 970224 970224 .

All of these solutions are related to approximations to 2 \sqrt2 : the values of x y \frac{x}{y} for the four special numbers above are

Special num x x y y x y \frac{x}{y}
24 24 7 7 5 5 1.4 1.4
840 840 41 41 29 29 1.41379 1.41379\ldots
28560 28560 239 239 169 169 1.41420 1.41420\ldots
970224 970224 1393 1393 985 985 1.41421 1.41421\ldots

The linked article gives a lot more information, including how to generate new solutions.

Chris Lewis - 7 months ago

Interesting Pell observation, Chris. Thanks! I notice this sequence has some other interesting properties (and conjectures) in OEIS , by the way.

Fletcher Mattox - 7 months ago

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