The story of a ball and a slope SJPO question

As shown in the figure above, a ball slides along a friction-less ramp of length L L . As it reaches the bottom, it hits the board and slides up along the slope again, which it continues to do until it comes to rest.

If the speed of the ball after the collision is 4 5 \frac { 4 }{ 5 } times the speed of the ball just before the collision, find the total distance traveled by the ball when it comes to a complete stop.

The total distance traveled by the ball can be expressed as a b L \frac { a }{ b } L . What is a + b a+b ?

Extra fact : This is one of the easiest problems from the 2012 SJPO Special Round with a rating of only 5m.

This question is part of my set SJPO Practice Questions .


The answer is 50.

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1 solution

Julian Poon
Aug 21, 2014

By using the formula for kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, it can be seen that the kinetic energy is directly proportional to the height that the ball would rise:

1 2 m v 2 = m g h K E α h K E α v 2 \frac { 1 }{ 2 } m{ v }^{ 2 }=mgh\\ KE\quad \alpha \quad h\\ KE\quad \alpha \quad { v }^{ 2 }

So since the speed decreases to 4 5 \frac { 4 }{ 5 } after every collision, the kinetic energy and height decreases to 4 5 2 { \frac { 4 }{ 5 } }^{ 2 } after every collision.

Since the ball is going to bounce until it stops, it is assumed to bounce infinity times, and the distance it travels is thus as:

2 n = 1 [ 4 5 ] 2 n + 1 2\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ { \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2n } } +1

Let n = 1 [ 4 5 ] 2 n \sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ { \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2n } } be S S

n = 1 [ 4 5 ] 2 n n = 2 [ 4 5 ] 2 n = [ 4 5 ] 2 = S S [ 4 5 ] 2 \sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ { \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2n } } -\sum _{ n=2 }^{ \infty }{ { \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2n } } ={ \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2 }=S-S{ \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2 }

Therefore, S = 16 9 S=\frac { 16 }{ 9 } which makes L [ 2 n = 1 [ 4 5 ] 2 n + 1 ] = 41 9 L L\left[ 2\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ { \left[ \frac { 4 }{ 5 } \right] }^{ 2n } } +1 \right] =\frac { 41 }{ 9 } L

a + b = 41 + 9 = 50 a+b=41+9=\boxed { 50 }

I think it would have been clearer to mention that it bounces infinitely many times.

Joel Tan - 6 years, 6 months ago

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I copied word for word from the SJPO paper. I guess the only way for it to stop is for it to bounce infinitely many times due to the ramp being friction-less. The answer is the same too.

Julian Poon - 6 years, 6 months ago

Why did you add 1 over there.....

Manish Bhargao - 6 years, 4 months ago

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That is for the initial movement of the ball down the full length of the ramp.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 3 months ago

The question said the speed of the ball becomes 4/5 of the speed before the collision, not decreases by 4/5 of the speed before.

Benyamin Krisna - 6 years, 6 months ago

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He miswrote the solution. It should be "decrease to 4 5 \frac{4}{5} ". I have updated the solution accordingly.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 3 months ago

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